126: The Citrix Session: Hosting the Connector Appliance on Nutanix AHV and more

Feb 19, 2023

We are continuing to evolve and add capabilities to our Connector Appliance. In case you missed it, I recently published a blog post taking a closer look at the fundamentals. To summarize, the continued development of the Connector Appliance is part of an ongoing effort to reduce the on-prem footprint needed to run Citrix and related infrastructure. This effort includes minimizing and unifying the number of connectors needed. In this blog post, I wanted to look closer at where you can host the Connector Appliance and what that means for you.

The Connector Appliance is a virtual appliance that, behind the scenes, runs a custom Linux-based operating system that customers can host in the way it best suits them. With that in mind, in combination with making the Connector Appliance fit more use cases, we have also looked to increase the options available for where you can host Connector Appliances.

Host: Andy Whiteside
Co-host: Bill Sutton
Co-host: Todd Smith
Co-host: Geremy Meyers

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Andy Whiteside: Hi! Everyone! Welcome to episode 126 0f the citric session on your host Andy White side today. Is February thirteenth, 2,023.

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Andy Whiteside: Bill, said I,

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Andy Whiteside: you had to find a different way to introduce you. One of our listeners made fun of me the other day, because I talk about having a great panel, and then there’s Bill

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Andy Whiteside: he’ll! He’ll know he’ll he’ll know i’m talking about him. He listens this one. I I know who you’re talking about, too. I’m bad. So I got a great group and plus, I have Bill set.

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Bill Sutton: Yeah.

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Geremy Meyers: see that you’re gonna switch it up a little bit. Yeah, like she listens.

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Bill Sutton: She has listened. She has listened, but not all of them.

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Andy Whiteside: Where were you last week?

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Andy Whiteside: Yeah. Get trained up with some technology out there.

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Andy Whiteside: That’s a it’s just a good way to Segue and say, this ecosystem is a really wide ecosystem of players, and you know, you can bring a lot of lineage. All the money is really in the space back to Citrix. I I into a podcast over the weekend. While I was watching watching my wife’s car

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Andy Whiteside: from Clouds Layer, and they were talking about this 0 Trust and this access through a portal, and like. Hey, welcome to welcome to the game guys. What have you invented that?

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All right. So the on the

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Andy Whiteside: from the Cloud software group. I can’t even myself say that

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Andy Whiteside: side on the Citrix side of the Cloud software group. We have Jeremy Myers back with us, Jeremy. How are we going?

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Geremy Meyers: It’s it’s going fantastic, going, really? Well, actually.

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Andy Whiteside: And then with you we have your counterpart, Todd Smith. You guys.

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Andy Whiteside: Hmm. You guys both have newish roles. I I think I know what Jeremy does not have no idea what you need to. Yeah. So so I have a very different role right now. I’ve got going back to my roots and becoming become an account technology strategist.

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Todd Smith: So i’m going to be focusing on

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Todd Smith: about a half dozen or so accounts in Canada. So I’ve got the Canadian Federal Government as well as 3 0f the largest health care organizations in Western Canada, so Canada having provincial health.

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Todd Smith: You should remember it kind of the equivalent of the United States having a a statewide health care program. They do it on the scale of the individual provinces.

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Todd Smith: And then, on the Federal side, they have a shared services organization which basically provides it as a whole bunch of other services to all of the different agencies and director. It’s up there. So it’s a pretty exciting time in my career getting a chance to like getting back to interacting directly with customers and helping them

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Todd Smith: solve problems and help them identify problems. They may not even know exist.

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Andy Whiteside: and I don’t. I don’t know about Jeremy and Bill, but i’m jealous.

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Todd Smith: Yeah.

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Todd Smith: it’s it’s it’s fun times

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Andy Whiteside: to go back get back to your roots and actually dig in and help customers solve problems using technologies that you’ve always known could help them, and they know it too. But now, to be able to actually go Make it happen. That’s all. Go ahead, though.

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Bill Sutton: I was just gonna agree. I You know that’s

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Bill Sutton: sounds really exciting, Todd. I’m sure you’re thrilled.

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Todd Smith: Yup.

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Geremy Meyers: Yeah, I I back. So you came up this morning, Todd? And someone asked me the question on what I can, what types of accounts you were covering in Canada. So

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Geremy Meyers: i’m glad you answered that question. I can go back and tell them exactly what that is, and and I guess because you’re just coming Federal, and I guess the health care organizations would fall under Federal in the Canadian room. Right? Right? That makes sense.

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Andy Whiteside: Yeah, it’s

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Todd Smith: just like in the United States, where we have a public sector team.

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Todd Smith: It covers both Federal accounts as well as individual States and local governments. It it’s the same up in Canada, except it’s on slightly smaller scale. Their government is not as large as the United States Government. For a multitude of reasons we can get into that conversation on a different podcast.

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But I think there’s

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Todd Smith: there’s a lot of similarities and

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Todd Smith: the challenges that are facing organizations like government agencies where

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Todd Smith: they don’t have the choice to say yes or no to what funding mechanisms they can utilize. And, more importantly, they don’t have yes or no to to deliver some of the services. The services are guaranteed as a citizen of the country that you’re going to get those services, and you know the Government just has to provide it.

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Todd Smith: and there’s opportunities here to help

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Todd Smith: the organization streamline to be more efficient. be able to reach out to health care populations that are

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Todd Smith: all over the place. You know. You know Canada is a Canada can be a very rural

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country when you look at it as far as population density.

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Todd Smith: but yet they still have the expectations that they can get those services wherever they are.

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Geremy Meyers: That’s awesome. Well, more importantly, it’s good to see you on here, man. I haven’t seen you on in like a month. So.

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Geremy Meyers: and you have a super nice camera. So you done something here. I don’t know what it was, but

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Geremy Meyers: I see, so it’s a different.

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Todd Smith: So my Home Office I have an Intel duck device, as well as a

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Todd Smith: fairly what i’m seeing now is a fairly low end logitech camera on it. You know they last week you guys were talking about the multitude of devices that you guys carry. I’ve tried to simplify it a little bit more, saying, hey, I’ve got a laptop that’s pretty decent.

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Todd Smith: you know. It was advertised as more of a gamer laptop. So it’s got quality better quality on the audio and and video side.

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Todd Smith: But once again, when i’m connecting to a citrus virtual desktop, or connected to a a series of web-based apps.

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Todd Smith: I don’t really need the high power on the endpoint until I start to do audio video

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Andy Whiteside: Okay, like

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Todd Smith: collaboration tools.

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Andy Whiteside: And and even then you may not need it unless you’re gonna be having certain types of meetings or like in this case, recording a a podcast or a video cap.

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Andy Whiteside: It. It is an interesting time you you guys went from 1 0ne area to another. It is

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Andy Whiteside: doing work in Canada and seeing the way the Government acts there, and the ability to think big, but do it on a a smaller scale in a in a manageable scale, and actually get some things done

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Andy Whiteside: versus having. I don’t know.

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Andy Whiteside: A 1,000 different agencies all go in their own direction.

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Andy Whiteside: Yeah, keep us posted on how that goes.

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Todd Smith: Yeah, Absolutely.

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Andy Whiteside: Well, guys, we decided, for today we would cover. Share my screen with you guys.

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Andy Whiteside: We would cover the topic of connector appliances.

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Andy, this this topic is a little bit of a Trojan horse. Right? So it’s a it’s kind of a quick and dirty one, you know. We’ve released

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Geremy Meyers: the connector Appliance virtual appliance for the Newtonix HP. Platform, which is awesome. But you know, I think, just wrapped up in this conversation. Number one, you know we got this thing called a connector appliance. How was that? What number one? What is it? And number 2? How is that different than maybe

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Geremy Meyers: other kinds of appliances? That’s it, you know, in a resource location, as it relates to.

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Geremy Meyers: You know, Citrus Cloud, whether you’re running any of the services, and the number 2,

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Geremy Meyers: You know what’s the future of these connectors and kind of what is the connector applies for, and I think there’s a lot of wrapped up in here.

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Todd Smith: I I I think I think one thing, Jeremy on this is that the the and more

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Todd Smith: is really the that that’s the

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Todd Smith: you know. They kind of hid that in the headline right.

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Andy Whiteside: I see, you can hear me. Okay, get what will help us understand where the cloud connectors with the call talking? What was your what was the original name when such a cloud came out, for the connector of

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Geremy Meyers: just the cloud connector that has always been the thing when you were connecting, and any sort of resource location like jazz resources, you know vdas things like that. It was all. It’s always been the cloud connector. But

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Geremy Meyers: originally we had something called a gateway appliance, and for a while there you would see you would log in. It’d be very confusing. You log in and see Cloud connector. You would see gateway, connector, and then you would see this new thing. And this is what this article covers which is the gateway appliance

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Geremy Meyers: it’s at 1 point you had all 3.

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Geremy Meyers: No, they all had different purposes, and ultimately the cloud connector.

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Geremy Meyers: There’s always been dazz, but the connector appliance replaces the gateway connector, which

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Geremy Meyers: kind of a mood point now, because I don’t even think it’s in the interface. I mean. Mostly she didn’t see that option.

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Andy Whiteside: So

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Andy Whiteside: what’s the difference between the cloud connectors and the connector appliances in terms of functionality?

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Geremy Meyers: So the clock connector is is built, and has always supported a dazz deployment, whereas so, for instance, when you think about.

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Geremy Meyers: you know the Vdas that might sit in a resource location, whether they’re in a cloud or at their own prem. There’s got to be some kind of

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Geremy Meyers: communication between the Vdas

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in the Citrix Data service. Now.

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Geremy Meyers: you can actually architect it to not leverage cloud cloud connectors. So that’s what the rendezvous protocol is for.

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Geremy Meyers: But ultimately, you know, things like you know, the Xml broker being able to tie into an on premise. You know, Active Directory being able to control things like you know, your Esxi machine creation services, and anything that involves

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Geremy Meyers: tying into the underlying platform, not so much with the public cloud because we can leverage the public. IP apis there. But if you’re if you’re deploying a dazz tenant, and you need to communicate with a resource location. You did that with the clock connector and supported all the

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Geremy Meyers: the services you need. In addition to things like a local host, cache as well. So it’s running a copy of Sequel Express.

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Geremy Meyers: and if you lose any sort of connectivity, you know to the desk service that call connectors, also running that software as well. In fact, there’s maybe 20 0r so services that all run

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Todd Smith: Yeah, that that that on I think the biggest thing here is that it’s kind of flipped it over to become more of a Linux based appliance.

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Todd Smith: So you don’t have to have a windows machine sitting out there acting as a gateway or a connector.

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Andy Whiteside: well, and does the connector appliance replace all the functionality of a windows base cloud connection, or there are limitations for what it can do.

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Geremy Meyers: Web and Sas apps through to a resource location, you know, even sort of a VPN. Replace where you’re using the secure access client. But it was entirely different Use case, in fact, I think, at the bottom of this article

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Geremy Meyers: it talks about that piece as well as supporting things like Citrus Cloud hypervisor. So

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Geremy Meyers: last year we we release cloud management of Zen, server of Citrix hypervisor.

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Geremy Meyers: and that is all done through the same connector appliance which is, which is fantastic.

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Geremy Meyers: you still need. If you’re going to deploy both you’re going to do. Secure private.

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Geremy Meyers: We’re not there here. I don’t know what the roadmap is for when that’s gonna happen. But there’s certainly an appetite to get that done. So connector appliance is letting space customers and Linux clock connectors

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Geremy Meyers: It goes to eventually migrate some things over, so that maybe you just have one. Connect your appliance to room them all

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Andy Whiteside: the bill you run int0 0pportunities to you. Have these conversations.

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Bill Sutton: The question about Well, what do I do about all my Sas apps? I have to publish a browser. Can I use a different approach. Can I still leverage workspace, and and where we’ve run into those we’ve talked about Spa, and you know, leveraging the

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Bill Sutton: the the connector, the connector appliance to to handle those connections and how that works. I I think we’ve implemented it. Maybe I don’t know that we implemented it on newtonics per se the connector appliance. That is.

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Bill Sutton: But I believe we’ve done it at least once or twice with Spa in an on-prem environment.

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Bill Sutton: on premises, environment.

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Andy Whiteside: You guys, and I apologize to you and our listeners. I’m struggling with audio. I’m working remote today, and I’ve found limitations of this. I killed her by his Video: I’m, sure you saw that.

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Andy Whiteside: So guys help me understand what the

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is. Is there ever a day where some of those windows services can fully go to a Linux appliance. Or is that Is that the asking? The impossible?

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Geremy Meyers: You know I I I don’t know right. So in my head, so I have. No, this is me. Spit ball in here. So this is me not knowing anything but particular. But you know you’re probably asking the same questions. I’m asking like. For instance, you know that the local Ha host Cache service is a sequel express database that lives on

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Geremy Meyers: I don’t know what the engineering effort is going to look like, Andy, and you know when we might see that, because that’s just one of you know many services that i’ll run.

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Geremy Meyers: I was talking t0 0ne of my guys this morning, and he was telling me that you know the Ldap implementation on like a net scale, or it’s completely different. Then how that works on like a windows appliance? So

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Andy Whiteside: Todd. Are you having a customer to ask you about the ability to eliminate that windows upon that windows Server from

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Andy Whiteside: the equator.

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Todd Smith: They’ll put window servers outside of a firewall.

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Todd Smith: for you know don’t have an acting like a gateway.

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Todd Smith: but a lot of times they they here

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Todd Smith: the words gateway and windows and things like that. They get a little fearful. because they don’t really. Sometimes they don’t fully understand what the purpose of those are. Those devices are, or those appliances are so

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Todd Smith: having a hard, you know Linux device out there, or some other operating system.

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Todd Smith: or some other type of device that’s out there can really kind of

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Todd Smith: help put the Security folks at ease at the same time, you know, if you can reduce some of the costs or make it more efficient.

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Todd Smith: you know there’s a there’s a lot of benefit there.

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Todd Smith: But yeah, we’re hearing this from customers, we’re also hearing it from some of our other

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Todd Smith: ecosystem partners as well, moving away from

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Todd Smith: some of the more expensive, more more costly to maintain solutions that are out there that require, You know, windows based services.

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Geremy Meyers: you know number one. You’re deploying from azure. But let’s just say you get that piece down, and you know you’ve got an automated way to push out windows.

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Geremy Meyers: and you can actually automate a lot of the that install. But I mean, listen. It’s a windows machine, and even though it’s not sitting in the Dmz Doesn’t need to. There’s still some security due diligence that’s got to happen. So what are the tools, the agents, and that sort of thing that need to be set on the box.

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Geremy Meyers: you know, a day or 2, just to get a windows box, you know, on the network, much less having the connector software on. And this is just coming back. This is just based on pocs that I’ve seen. whereas this

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Geremy Meyers: a code, and you know, within 15 min. I mean this connect appliances online and connected back to

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Geremy Meyers: you. Know your your sisters cloud 10, which is pretty impressive. So there’s less footprint. It’s easy to deploy. I mean, this is where I want it to go. We’re just not there yet, for all the the cloud connector services.

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Bill Sutton: it does not allow inbound type access. It’s more of an outbound proxy, you know, to Citrix Cloud. I still think the conversation is a lot easier if it’s, if it’s not windows for the reasons that Todd stated earlier around maintenance and security and and other elements. So

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Bill Sutton: ultimately, if if we can get to the point where we have some other operating system or an appliance focused solution for the connector like this that that essentially allows to

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Andy Whiteside: So, guys. I think there’s a couple of elements in this article, right? It’s the gave us a great opportunity to talk about connectors, and whether it’s the cloud connectors, or whether it’s the the connector for secure private access

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Andy Whiteside: getting the sense in the field that you’re hearing more and more positive conversations between Citrix and New tanks.

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Geremy Meyers: Oh, absolutely. In fact, i’m pretty thrilled that this this release finally. So we’re. We’re talking t0 0ur Newtonian experience. In fact, we.

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Geremy Meyers: you know. I argue for the past year and a half. I’ve had, you know, lots of sort of joint, you know, engineering solution engagements which have been fun to follow. And so I actually a little surprised. It took as long as we did to get this piece out. But

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Geremy Meyers: for a lot of d workloads. But you know, as folks are standardizing their, you know, hardware stack. Yeah, this is one last thing that needs to live outside of Hv.

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Todd Smith: And I think one of the things to add in here is.

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Todd Smith: you know, that’s gonna continue to drive some efficiencies, some cost savings. And and, more importantly, some adoption.

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Andy Whiteside: Yeah. And this conversation really interesting, we’re gonna talk about, you know, public cloud or or hyper scalars, and then we’ll come back to your team’s conversation again and talk about

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Andy Whiteside: You know whether you run one on the other. But you guys mentioned the logo. I don’t know we have to go into a lot of detail, but the ability to run on public.

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Andy Whiteside: The cloud of the cloud, you know somebody else is somebody else’s data center run by Microsoft, Google, Amazon.

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Andy Whiteside: You know New Newtonics. Well, I guess just any other common. Jeremy, you kind of hear a log of right, the ability to just go in and subscribe t0 0ne through azure. Gcp. Aws, and within a few minutes it’s up and going, and off you go.

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Geremy Meyers: No, that’s it. That’s in fact, when this was first released it was a virtual appliance that you had to import into each of these cloud platforms so you could. You could snag the the virtual appliance from Citrix, from the downloads website, and then there was a workflow actually imported in, but now they’re all available from the public marketplaces on

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Geremy Meyers: on each. So you know what’s interesting is. I didn’t realize it was on the Google Cloud marketplace. Maybe I just hadn’t looked yet. But you know I’ve definitely deployed from azure. I know what’s on the a. Of us, but that’s cool to see. It’s als0 0n

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Geremy Meyers: the Google Cloud marketplace as well. So what that means is, you know, you can search up, connect to appliance from within your marketplace, and deploy from there, or script it out if you need to.

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Andy Whiteside: It’s it’s fun to see this world of all these promised abilities that we thought. We’re just. You know

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Andy Whiteside: You know we’re all old enough to remember deploying on physical hardware, and our data center being the only option available.

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Todd Smith: A a folder full of discounts, or a folder full of CD Roms or a You know multiple USB drives you just you know you pull them down from the marketplace.

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Todd Smith: and I think the the big benefit there is because it is on the marketplaces. They’ve been vetted out by

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Todd Smith: the folks that that manage those marketplaces right? So they’re they’re supportable, and they’re sustainable.

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Geremy Meyers: Well, I just that. So you said something that I don’t think you realize you said. But you got folks from a generation who are used to doing quote unquote clicking.

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Geremy Meyers: and it’s easy to go to the marketplace and click and deploy and things like that. But you know we’ve got organizations that are trying to automate some of these cloud processes, and the idea that now

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Andy Whiteside: So I scroll down. I’m looking at the what’s next section. Some of the stuff we’ve been talking about shows up here, Todd. You want to take first correct cover this and then Jeremy and Bill, If you guys want to China.

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Todd Smith: Yeah, I I mean, I think when we talk about you know what’s next, and you know, I think Jeremy just mentioned earlier is the the challenges. Finally, seeing so these promises come to fruition and being delivered.

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Geremy Meyers: each of the domains where you’ve got users that need to access resources. And so you know what we’ve introduced here. This is pretty slick, is the fact that you can put a single set of cloud or connector appliances in and have it.

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Geremy Meyers: domains, which is kind of nice. So you don’t have to keep installing connectors just to support user accounts. That’s in all these different locations. So that’s kind of a big win in in terms of reducing the footprint. But you know I love the fact that we’re expanding this out to different use cases, you know, outside of just Spa

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Geremy Meyers: or just, you know, eventually, hopefully, Dad. But you know we got hypervisor here, you know. Spa.

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Todd Smith: you know. Certainly. I’m, looking forward to the spring saw and being able to to to travel. I’ve got my, you know, first official trip of my new role

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Geremy Meyers: No, no. listen. I think this is a fantastic topic.

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Geremy Meyers: and you know I I I will say this. I have a chance to chat with Barry and moan earlier or late last week, and so just sort of spending some some additional time with integrity and a lot of the things that we’ve got going on there.

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Geremy Meyers: I’m: I’m pretty excited about your business, and just kind of the future what you guys got going on. So that’s my world right now.

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Andy Whiteside: Yeah, we we’ve been investing heavily in growing our team and man it’s really starting to come together, Bill. Anything on your side.

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Bill Sutton: Well, I I would just say that i’m always happy to talk to Jeremy if he ever wants to reach out. We can just chat, you know. I’m always happy to have conversations with him. So don’t just you know, don’t just talk to moan and dary i’m i’m here, too. I’m also really looking forward to as far as what Todd was saying

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Bill Sutton: about getting out and doing some traveling. I’ve been doing a lot more this year than I have in the past, and and next week i’ll be in Birmingham, for any of our listeners will be in our event. In Birmingham. I will be there to get a chance to to interact with some customers and partners, and really looking forward to that opportunity to really get out and and mingle with the folks that

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Bill Sutton: that use our our services and and work with us. So i’m looking forward to that.

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Andy Whiteside: All right. Well, I appreciate Dental, and jumping on here today hopefully, my next to the calls too much of an issue. I’m gonna. I can’t wait to go back and listen to see the difference between what I could hear and what the what was reported up in the cloud. But, guys, I appreciate it, and we’ll do it again next week.

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Todd Smith: Okay, thanks.