58: Nutanix Weekly: Introducing AOS 6.5 – HCI Will Never Be the Same

Aug 9, 2022

Get excited! The latest upgrade to the core Nutanix® hyperconverged infrastructure (HCI) software is live. The AOS™  6.5 release is our most comprehensive update ever, with improved performance, security, and integrated data services required for demanding database workloads and business critical applications. 

We encourage you to take a fresh look at AOS 6.5 while keeping three key things in mind: 

  1. Performance-hungry business-critical applications and databases are coming to HCI 
  2. Cyber-resilience is ideally built-in to storage architecture – not bolted on   
  3. Granular snapshots and replication data services are a key buying criteria  

Host: Harvey Green
Co-host: Jirah Cox
Co-host: ben Rogers

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Harvey Green: Alright Hello everybody and welcome to episode 57 of the new tannic weekly podcast I have with me my co host here, Mr direct costs are you.

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Jirah Cox: Heavy dude man glad to be here thanks for having me wonderful.

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Harvey Green: And we also have been Rogers befallen being how are you.

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Ben Rogers: Good how are you i’m doing really well man happy to be here today, wonderful wonderful.

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Harvey Green: Man is a he’s on.

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Harvey Green: Oh away from the office working away with with some stuff going on and Jerry he is in the office which I can see, and I guess this Mr jarrod they’re.

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Harvey Green: Heavy finally given up on this movement thing.

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Jirah Cox: If you want actually i’ve got some moving boxes, right here.

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Jirah Cox: Just off camera.

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Jirah Cox: For you Harvey.

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Jirah Cox: Are gonna remove in in two weeks time.

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Harvey Green: So then gyro has been doing a little bit of we either have to take it for what he’s saying it is insanely he’s been moving around a little bit.

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Harvey Green: Or you can just take it, how i’ve been saying it and narrating it that he’s just pretending to be moving, for I don’t know for simple deployments let’s try to get away from less what is it dry or wet hot Why are you doing this.

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Jirah Cox: My version of the facts is that you’re in denial that you’re sad that I no longer live 15 minutes down the road from you, which I apologize to you for multiple times.

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Harvey Green: Not enough.

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Jirah Cox: Hours chocolates.

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Jirah Cox: natalie, what do you want from me.

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Ben Rogers: So jar I would have to ask when’s the last episode in your current location will that be 59.

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Jirah Cox: Know should be 58 because oh.

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Jirah Cox: Next week the desk is getting the studio’s getting disassemble.

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Jirah Cox: The next next week’s episode, then you and I have made up in Vegas and that’ll, be it.

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Ben Rogers: wow so I guess the the first episode in your new crib man we’ve got to have you know kind of a welcome home party for you.

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Jirah Cox: sounds good.

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Harvey Green: All right, well, I am sharing my screen here so for those who can see it today’s topic is introducing ALS six dot five and this label ACI will never be the same so that’s right.

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Ben Rogers: here and in the background.

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Ben Rogers: The crowd cheered in the background.

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Harvey.

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Ben Rogers: Nice.

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Jirah Cox: there’s a Monty Python little sound effects on the podcast.

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Ben Rogers: Here we go.

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Harvey Green: Nice.

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Harvey Green: So that like I say that’s a lot to say on the table right he I will never be the same, I guess, which which one of you wants to tackle why he I will never be the same we’ll just start with that.

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Jirah Cox: yeah and let’s dive into it, so this is a post celebrating our you know our huge release actually it’s a six dot five.

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Jirah Cox: As is the code that runs all of eugenics runs in RC vm that’s our core code set that really makes all of all new tannic flavored hcm possible so with the six dot five release, which is kind of like the it’ll it’s like the big release of the year.

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Jirah Cox: brings a lot of new features brings some new features that have been on our are like short term support or like a preview release track to the mainstream support lts code branch.

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Jirah Cox: So some of those some of those who are touched on on some prior episodes around when you know when it actually shifts in like a.

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Jirah Cox: short term support release, but now when it’s the long term support that’s what it kind of gets mainstream broad support so three high level buckets right that all this falls into.

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Harvey Green: Well, hold on before you even do that you taught long term support you talk short term support what is this release.

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Jirah Cox: This 165 is lts long term support you can, if you only want you to touch your cluster as infrequently as possible right like dude if you also want to do like sort of big bang.

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Jirah Cox: You know summertime or whatever your annual schedule is releases that’s fine that’s good match that with you it’s it’s kind of for customers that want.

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Jirah Cox: New releases less frequently, but they also therefore want to patch less frequently if you want more new stuff faster and you’re willing to patch faster to get it that’s what the short term support credits for as well.

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Harvey Green: So let me ask a couple questions around that I put on my customer head like band does a good bit, so these this this new release Do I need to wait to install this new release while they work out the bugs and the kinks.

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Jirah Cox: yeah great question and and totally natural in this case, actually, believe it or not know.

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Jirah Cox: We only make something a long term support release when it’s been kind of battle tested and has had some soap time in the field.

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Jirah Cox: As a short term release, so this code actually has been already out there available for customers for their lab clusters testing clusters customers that want to be the short term support train.

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Jirah Cox: To get featured more often it’s all been out there, so we don’t ship that new Code as as an lts okay well.

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Harvey Green: that’s good news I like that, when was the last time.

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Harvey Green: You got it lts release.

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Jirah Cox: was less than what.

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Harvey Green: Did when’s the last time you released an lts version, the one before this.

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Jirah Cox: 65 dot 20 would have been last year.

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Harvey Green: Ah alright so so.

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Ben Rogers: there’s a year that’s that’s what’s exciting.

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Harvey Green: yeah but other than that.

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Ben Rogers: yeah I mean that’s that’s me kind of what’s exciting and this is, this is the first six dot X release has gone and lts So for me like an enterprise.

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Ben Rogers: As gyro was saying, a lot of enterprise customers won’t go to sts versions, because you know they don’t need the features, or they want to be more battle ready.

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Ben Rogers: They will be willing to move to these lts releases so i’m very excited to get in front of my customers, because I can go swim ago.

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Ben Rogers: This is a long term releases as battle tested got some really cool features we’ll talk about here in a little bit later on the podcast but.

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Ben Rogers: This is, this is an exciting time to be a new tonics employee because of this release and the significance of the coming from the five dot X air into the six dot X or so.

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Ben Rogers: i’m pretty excited to get in front of my customers and a few customers i’ve already talked to this about they’re excited too, because this is what they’ve been waiting on to make that jump into the six arena.

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Harvey Green: yeah so that that makes a lot of sense to me right i’m if I still have on the customer had to go from a five dot something released to a six dot something release that already sounds like.

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Harvey Green: A big deal, but to go from a 522 six dot five dot five tells me, you know, there have been some some that ones that too right, and the fact that Jerry you brought up that this has been a year.

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Harvey Green: A year in the making right that that kind of gets me to pay attention so all right let’s let’s say i’m game what am I getting for upgrading to six dot five.

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Jirah Cox: So three key areas of stuff you’re getting would be performance increases right, so that you can apply just a software update to your existing cluster get more get faster out of it.

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Jirah Cox: More resilience.

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Jirah Cox: For you know security and then also better snapshots and replication data services are the kind of the three big buckets that everything falls under under we can we can go deeper on all that, but those are the three high level high level bullets.

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Harvey Green: Alright, so you already know i’m already interested and this the you that you use the word performance right, it sounds to me.

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Harvey Green: Like if I perform this upgrade things will be better and faster and I don’t have to buy a new equipment so make it better and faster what whatever do you means they’re.

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Jirah Cox: Totally mad better living through software so put better software on existing CVs right those new tannic specialized controllers get more performance out of the cluster so better code.

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Jirah Cox: there’s it is primarily software right is the release it does bring some features that enable new hardware to so clusters cannot differentiate between.

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Jirah Cox: Say envy me and octane they’re both envy me click grade storage, but in optimus optimus faster, and we can actually now distinguish between those two things, so if you have them both in a node.

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Jirah Cox: We can make sure the very hardest of data is placed on to obtain disks and then the envy me is as Where does this say the colder tier of storage.

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Jirah Cox: Even though envy me pretty pretty darn fast it’s not seriously you’re cold here but differentiation there there she links out to.

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Jirah Cox: Other studies, you know that even a screenshot that we include her in the blog post is is a awesome showing you know 3.38 million.

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Jirah Cox: Read I OPS a million right I OPS very, very big numbers or putting up here.

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Jirah Cox: For the performance studies, as well as supporting with that performance larger and larger databases as well right, so we we highlight.

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Jirah Cox: Six dot five supports larger and larger databases in this calls out, you know how much do you need right terabyte two terabyte 10 terabyte or more six dot five is there for you.

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Ben Rogers: is going from the single io thread to the Multi iron thread kind of you know, for somebody like me this new this new to the new tannic technology trying to learn how is this really significant in this build.

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Jirah Cox: The threading part that’s been an HP for a little while.

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Jirah Cox: A brand spanking new feature for a lot of things will be.

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Jirah Cox: Like the disc charting and we talked about that on a prior episode, but again, this outcomes to a mainstream release where.

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Jirah Cox: You know, we still continue to recommend along with Microsoft more V disks is better for performance for a lot of applications, like sequel.

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Jirah Cox: That being said, not every application in a customer of mine is worth shifting onto multiple V disks when you migrate to new tonics.

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Jirah Cox: So we’re still going to do what we can to make that run faster, wherever possible, and that includes this technology called discarding more will take one let’s say one large V disk.

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Jirah Cox: and break it up into regions and assign each of those regions of the disk a different disk controller, so that we can still to your point Ben get multiple lanes of throughput in and out of that single P desk.

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Ben Rogers: So Harvey one of the things you asked you know is is today i’m sitting with the cluster and now i’m going to upgrade the cluster what am I going to get well you’re going to be able to turn on some of these these features that have been added, since the five.

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Ben Rogers: The five dot X lts release which i’m excited for because, again, you know the octane this coming down the pipe and using that, especially in a in a SAP hot environment.

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Ben Rogers: Just some really exciting things so will it perform faster, if you have the right devices in there, I believe you will get a performance increase when you go to this bill.

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Jirah Cox: yeah you’re gonna get a cluster that’s smarter and can run larger workloads more intelligently.

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Harvey Green: So that’s pretty cool as as customer who doesn’t want to spend any more money than I have to that that sounds pretty promising that I can upgrade what I have and get some more some more performance out of it, potentially some more life out of it.

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Jirah Cox: I mean that sounds like a really high value platform where you just apply updates and get even more out of it yeah yes, yes.

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Harvey Green: Agreed, I do like things like that.

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Jirah Cox: surprised me when you said it for two years, I thought you’re in touch on security as as a kind of number one of the bullet like super critical.

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Harvey Green: You know it’s it’s funny that you should bring that up because, obviously, we all want things to be much, much faster faster faster, but we also want them to be secure so definitely less let’s talk some more about what what we’ve got security wise that we can hit on.

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Jirah Cox: yeah because we got it so as we’re running these you know business critical mission critical workloads.

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Jirah Cox: With more and more performance, we also want to do that securely so some of these enhancements that come in this is.

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Jirah Cox: The abilities for virtual networking right if you’re using for networking to do network isolation if you’re running you thanks nodes within public cloud.

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Jirah Cox: Prison is now enabled to display to you what your public cloud networking looks like so we can show those sub nets right there in prison in this case in an aws nc to.

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Jirah Cox: So that when you’re deploying vm you can actually see and consume the networks that like say an aws network administrator at might have built for you.

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Jirah Cox: If you’re if you’re in the duty of course we’ve got some new certifications that brings into compliance here with like ipv6 requirements for communications.

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Jirah Cox: And you know more ways that we can about.

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Harvey Green: Where am I, my customer head here, I see you got some some additional certifications for the god i’m not the god would do I still benefit from where you guys are with what certification level with them is it that secure for me to.

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Jirah Cox: Total yeah so the any customer can actually go to their cluster and actually put it into a self hardening state where it will use those same hardening guidelines to.

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Jirah Cox: enforce and also monitor and read and read he’ll back to a security baseline as defined those in those hardening guidelines so it’s not just like a one time event, where you tell your cluster a self harden.

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Jirah Cox: It does that for sure, but then it also will monitor that over time to say if someone goes in and tampered with the configuration to.

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Jirah Cox: You know, weaken your security posture maybe enable like password ssh versus key based ssh it will alert you on that, and then also roll back to the the security baseline saying, I have to turn that off because this is what my security baseline mandates.

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Harvey Green: Wait so.

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Harvey Green: i’ve got the option like let’s say the do the standard has 1000 different settings set to be a certain way.

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Harvey Green: And let’s say I really only need 900 of those and the other hundred are going to make it so that my users can’t work, so I just don’t want those said I can do that too, I can adapt from what they’re.

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Jirah Cox: hearing that one’s beyond me i’ve tweaked the baselines but I wasn’t ever heard of any of our baseline breaking the product, of course, we write the baselines for the product to harden itself.

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Harvey Green: Well, not necessarily tweaking the baseline but just taking what they have and I guess well I guess that.

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Jirah Cox: picking and choosing.

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Harvey Green: tweaking the baseline.

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Jirah Cox: I mean that’s not a regular.

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Jirah Cox: baseline if you’re.

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Jirah Cox: If the end user can pick and choose what they want to apply.

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Harvey Green: To it I guess.

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Harvey Green: So, yes.

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Ben Rogers: I think about this so Harvey you are a compliance officer and a healthcare facility.

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Ben Rogers: And you’re looking to really you know prove that you’d hard in the environment, I think leaning on this tool.

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Ben Rogers: would be awesome because then I could say you know now i’m hardening my bar and not only for what healthcare expects me to do, but now also what the Department of Defense is doing so yeah other industries, I could definitely see that being a plus.

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Harvey Green: yeah absolutely I mean i’m sure there are lots of environments, that would say if it’s good enough for the God is good enough for.

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Jirah Cox: that’s always been what i’ve taught from a.

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Jirah Cox: Design standpoint is the civil those baselines are so much more inclusive that aiming for that kind of brass ring gives you everything beneath it right it.

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Jirah Cox: is not as stringent security posture.

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Harvey Green: That makes sense, I like that what else you got for me.

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Jirah Cox: A whole lot and I clicked on some links here in the blog posts and distract myself.

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Jirah Cox: This is a link filled blog posts that everybody should go check out.

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Jirah Cox: Oh yeah so better replication so if you’re already using our native new tonics provided disaster recovery solution.

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Jirah Cox: Sending copies of your vm from one cluster to another, which should be anything to anything right cross hypervisor.

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Jirah Cox: Your data Center to your data Center your data Center to the code on the street cross town across the country public cloud whatever year other new tannic cluster wants to run.

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Jirah Cox: This release brings out what’s called a range based applications to.

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Jirah Cox: To send.

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Jirah Cox: To get even even closer down to just sending only changed data, so we get nerdy for a second we write data on disk and one one megabyte chunks.

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Jirah Cox: And in prior releases, we would send that megabyte if only a kilobyte megabyte change we’d send the whole the whole megabyte and with this were able to slice it more finally so that we’re only sending just change data unless sort of padding in the extent around that change data.

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Jirah Cox: Cluster optimization for application as well, what does that do, that means that customers can get more snapshots across the wire faster.

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Jirah Cox: achieve lower you know our PR to on their applications, so that data is fresher over at Dr if they want to go to a fail over.

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Jirah Cox: Planned or unplanned.

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Harvey Green: This.

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Ben Rogers: Let me ask a question from a customer point of view so i’m running.

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Ben Rogers: Today, on five dot X and I upgrade to six dot five and i’m doing replication before, are you telling me that, after this upgrade it’s going to take my neck, and my.

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Ben Rogers: Existing replication rules and policies that I have in place and it’s going to apply this ability to just now send over the change data instead that whole one megabyte block over.

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Jirah Cox: yeah yeah you should see the existing application on those existing clusters yeah completing faster or taking less time per snapshot to send across the wire.

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Ben Rogers: wow so we also should probably see some bandwidth efficiency come along with us we’re not counting that in these articles, but i’m thinking through that that we should see that after these upgrades.

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Jirah Cox: Essentially I guess it depends on each environment right like the amount of data change and frequency and available bandwidth to replicate.

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Jirah Cox: But yeah it’s really possible yeah I can I can imagine that that would be true of a lot of different environments.

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Ben Rogers: If you’re a cloud customer and you’re using your cloud environment as a Dr facility and you’re replicating out this can be a big difference in my opinion.

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Jirah Cox: To be could be well, I mean everybody’s got TELCO contracts to renegotiate right if you can prove that you’re maybe not using as much old pipe as you used to be, you know you can find some savings there for sure.

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Jirah Cox: So um some other new stuff that comes in this release you know I love the way that we highlight here.

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Jirah Cox: You know, helping out with operations freeing up nights and weekends right like the actual you know, helping you get back time in your day time in your night having your weekend.

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Jirah Cox: HP memory overcommit vm templates so helping customers, you know we’ve had we’ve we’ve like a cloud native provider had the capacity for.

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Jirah Cox: Do using like an image library, where you can upload like basically V disk templates and then create vm using those templates wherever you want to write on any cluster now with this functionality, you can even template eyes the you know the V cpu the memory.

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Jirah Cox: As well as he memory overcommit something we’ve heard from a long time from the field around customers that.

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Jirah Cox: For very that’s a very specific use cases right very specific needs, certain environments definitely need overcommit to maybe.

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Jirah Cox: Be perhaps let’s say financially viable right maybe there’s some environments where there’s just political constraints of you know so and so swears up and down they need.

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Jirah Cox: 64 gig memory, but I watched the vm and it’s all using 16 gig, of course, we can report on that we can name and shame we can help you show back or shame back.

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Jirah Cox: In your environment but there’s some environments where you just aren’t gonna win that battle, you have to give it six four gig memory, no matter what the report says.

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Jirah Cox: So with this now with memory overcommit right, you can steal some of that memory that the vm is not using back to give to other vm in the environment, now of course now we’re not the first surprise to have this.

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Jirah Cox: and laws of physics apply to everyone equally right if you ran out of real physical memory on a node.

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Jirah Cox: you’re going to page, you know life’s going to slow down all those viewers are gonna hate life so use this to make promises to your vm but let’s make wise promises to our becomes not go go crazy and write checks that are dark dims can’t cash.

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Jirah Cox: Capacity planning for 496 six, I think it was pretty slick so you’ve been able to connect you know non atlantic’s fully you know, three tier V Center environments to prison for a long time and surface like alerts do some.

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Jirah Cox: Ai ml growth trending with this one now, you can do capacity planning as well, so we’ll keep we can monitor those environments, the same way we monitor ourselves.

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Jirah Cox: and send you an alert whenever your predicted runway dips below 12 months of growth so we’ll watch cpu watch memory watch storage.

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Jirah Cox: And if you’re growing at a certain rate that we think you’re going to run out within the next 12 months will send you an alert say hey, by the way, caution.

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Jirah Cox: You know, out of memory condition is coming up on that other non eugenics cluster over there, you know.

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Jirah Cox: forecasted for nine months out same way, we can do a new tonics now i’m not newt annex as well, so centralized alerting or pay, maybe a compelling event would you like some morning tactics to help alleviate that predicted shortfall there.

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Harvey Green: yeah yeah that’s that’s pretty cool actually.

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Jirah Cox: If you’ve heard about our new licensing model with then there’s even a link here, this is such a great blog posts, because it links to everything else that’s part of it, so the inside licensing ncs licensing.

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Jirah Cox: Unified storage database services already licensing models, this is our lts release that now lets you apply that licensing to your clusters, so of course we did ship any licensing models, the next sts release supported that and now that comes to lts as well, so if you had.

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Jirah Cox: If you had that licensing that can now be applied.

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Jirah Cox: Some of the compelling stuff there now is like you know nci can include like flow micro segmentation So if you didn’t have that before by converting your licensing and then upgrading to 65 you just get flow micro segmentation on your cluster.

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Jirah Cox: When you’re running hv other cool stuff around like unified storage database services other good easy to consume.

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Jirah Cox: And let’s see.

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Jirah Cox: That probably rounds out the the what’s new I know that i’m i’m doing a couple of meetings, a week now nowadays.

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Jirah Cox: Just presenting this in depth to our customers, so if it has at all compelling to you, I would say reach out to your account team tell me, you want to get on the calendar and get a more in depth review of the what’s new in six dot five content.

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Jirah Cox: are great guys that were in tech marketing put together some wonderful guys and gals over tech marketing put together some awesome content.

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Jirah Cox: That we can go through in a more you know more intimate and also dedicated time fashion right let’s carve out an hour and really go deep on what’s new in this release.

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Harvey Green: yeah you’re you’re already jumping the gun going past me I always ask you, what can I do this.

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Jirah Cox: What if I felt I don’t know calls to action.

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Jirah Cox: Then yeah totally reach out to your account team right let them know that you want to go deeper on some of this stuff but also if you’re just listening and let’s say you’re hopefully not driving but be great at your computer.

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Jirah Cox: jump on the next test drive environment test drive also has.

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Jirah Cox: Six dot five there as well, that you can.

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Jirah Cox: hop onto and kick the tires as well.

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Harvey Green: yeah absolutely.

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Harvey Green: Maybe we need to do something, specifically around six five but def definitely being able to use after i’ve been able to do that, you know do some some demos and.

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Harvey Green: Actually i’ll and I like to tell people this all the time right, you can go to test drive and you can go out there and take a look at what’s there and not break what you have like look at somebody else.

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Harvey Green: did not break production because you did not go and look at it first just plan.

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Jirah Cox: yeah if you don’t have a lap cluster please use ours, not your.

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Harvey Green: Yes, let’s let’s plan well I.

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Ben Rogers: Think I think i’m saving grace with that is that this is a long term support release, so this is Gary said, this is, you know the bullet tested and should be battle ready so.

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Ben Rogers: As i’m talking to customers i’m trying to relay a sense of you know, this is a, this is the next step.

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Ben Rogers: In your journey with us and we now have it as a long term release where you don’t have to worry about it being a short term release or something that’s not been completely tested by the field.

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Harvey Green: yeah no agreed on that for sure um I guess in my saying that i’m less worried about the software and more worried about just you know jumping out there and just pressing buttons and oh wait I don’t know what just asked.

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Harvey Green: Oh wait.

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Ben Rogers: And it has amazed me, it has amazed me being a new employee here, as you learn more about this upgrade how they have you know really done some enhancements to.

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Ben Rogers: The Code and the gears underneath the you know behind the covers that a just saying, some of the performance that we’re able to gain you know this multi io coming out and our ability to play with octane and all that it’s just very interesting how they can tune.

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Ben Rogers: This platform, you know I mean i’m just amazed at at at at a geek level what they’re able to do behind the scenes, with this.

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Harvey Green: yeah absolutely.

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Harvey Green: All right, Mr Rogers any parting thoughts, sir.

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Ben Rogers: Well, there was an interesting article that came out this week that talked about you know, employees and so, when I look at new tactics and i’m you know, having a leadership.

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Ben Rogers: role in the past, I think about you know how can I set up a platform that can be pulled bulletproof to employ change.

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Ben Rogers: And I think, with some of the direction that new tactics is going they’re really looking at that as.

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Ben Rogers: How can I hire competent individuals that can work on or existing on Prem environments, but as we grow and we scale out the cloud.

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Ben Rogers: How will they be able to you know, be able to do that work as well, and how do I retain those employees and if I can’t retain those employees how hard, will it be for me to get new employees.

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Ben Rogers: Will I have the talent, to be able to do this, and I think new tactics as a platform gives you the ability to have confidence that your talent will not only be able to.

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Ben Rogers: to perform in existing workloads on Prem or private cloud, but as you get into public cloud as your aws.

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Ben Rogers: Your employees skill set can handle those environments as well, and I think there’s a lot of power with that and I hope that other it leaders.

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Ben Rogers: and employees skill set man is very important, and having the skill set to manage your workloads wherever they live, is is a reality for a lot of people and so.

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Ben Rogers: i’m very proud of the fact that I work for a company that’s giving company’s ability to flatten that out and to be able to walk across silos like that.

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Harvey Green: All right, Jerry top there.

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Jirah Cox: Now hundred percent agree.

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Jirah Cox: during the reading article this week with the CEO of aviatrix they do cloud networking and SDN.

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Jirah Cox: And he was talking about the value prop for his product right being that it’s that sort of decoder ring and universal experience standardization.

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Jirah Cox: Across across everything right So if you had operations on Prem colo tcp aws azure it there’s it’s unrealistic think you ever staff all those skill sets well right, but you could easily staff, you know for aviatrix.

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Jirah Cox: This this episode is not sponsored by aviatrix.

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Jirah Cox: to let your team standardize operations right standardize the run book that you had to a new employee hey here’s your binder of like stuff we do.

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Jirah Cox: On one consistent platform, and I was like we actually need to steal that messaging because that’s exactly what we do for for private and hybrid cloud right, you can standardize that operations that you again, probably won’t.

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Jirah Cox: staff to the nth degree of specialization across every platform that you ever need to run workloads in, but you can specialize on new tactics and then take that with you anywhere wherever you know the knicks and the hardware and that and the ssd is can follow you.

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Harvey Green: yeah absolutely.

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Harvey Green: And I guess on my part and i’ll throw out there, that our next new tannic workshop is on Friday, the 19th 11 to two and it will be specifically around new tannic files so.

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Harvey Green: Hopefully you guys will jump on and join us for that maybe learn something new, maybe learn a little bit more about what you already have and do every day but definitely jump on it’ll be hands on and you guys can break ours, instead of yours.

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Jirah Cox: i’ll be closing signing my name discussing my of times but i’ll be with you in spirit.

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Harvey Green: All right, I guess we’ll have to be happy with that.

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Harvey Green: Alright, thanks guys, we will see you for the next one.

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Jirah Cox: Thank you.

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Have a good one.