55: IGEL Weekly: 7SIGNAL to Present on Monitoring and Mitigating Wi-Fi Issues at DISRUPT On Tour

Jul 11, 2022

7SIGNAL is among the gold sponsors of this year’s DISRUPT On Tour 2022 End User Computing Forum, which is making 21 stops in cities across North America and Europe. Alongside IGEL and other leading end user computing leaders, 7SIGNAL will be showcasing the latest innovations and best practices to deliver digital experience monitoring solutions for the hybrid work era.

During our session, you’ll learn how to:

  • Reduce the time required for troubleshooting from days to minutes
  • Proactively identify issues before end users are affected and the help desk is called
  • Support your remote and campus workers equally


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Patrick Toner: Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of sin takers agile weekly this is episode 55.

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Patrick Toner: nearing you know just continuing past the halfway point half century mark here i’m joined with a former colleague good friend, Chris Fini for my drill Chris, by the way, i’m Patrick toner did not fail to mention that but Chris how you doing.

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Chris Feeney: i’m doing alright man you’re enjoying the ability to work from anywhere today.

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Chris Feeney: As you can tell, I think that’s a.

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Chris Feeney: Well we’re at the beach so i’m enjoying it right now so look forward to the topic good topic today so excited.

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Patrick Toner: Very good, but we’re both taking advantage of the work from anywhere.

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Patrick Toner: You know, technology, a little bit different reasons, you are on vacation right now and we’re just say right.

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Chris Feeney: Now Hilton head you’ve been here a few times it’s a great place to come family.

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Chris Feeney: vacation we’ve done I don’t know, three or four these now here and just absolutely love coming down here.

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Patrick Toner: are nice very nice and i’m actually for anyone listening who’s been following this saga about to ourselves right we finally made it to Florida.

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Patrick Toner: Had a little bit of a mishap in our airbnb sweet we plan to stay in jacksonville or House should be move in ready on Thursday so we’re going to go to settlement Thursday, but we had an electrical issue I airbnb middle of the night like.

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Patrick Toner: 103 degrees down here.

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Patrick Toner: And then all the power goes out the air conditioner goes out, you know I had to wrangle the four kids that are freaking out because it’s pitch black and.

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Patrick Toner: We made the decision it’s time to go to a hotel So here we are we’re about five minutes down the road working from anywhere doing doing work from anywhere thing so.

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Chris Feeney: Anyway, room and.

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Chris Feeney: You know it’s funny all we need all we need is a good wi fi connection.

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Chris Feeney: And that’s it and you know what interestingly enough we’re talking about something regarding wi fi today, are we not.

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Patrick Toner: We are, we are, we have a great topic.

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Patrick Toner: Let me go ahead and share my screen now we’re gonna be talking about new blog got released on the website technology called seven signal.

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Patrick Toner: And this one was one that was unfamiliar to me when we kind of were first talking before yeah podcast recording here but i’m Chris if you could just give a quick overview what what is seven signal.

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Chris Feeney: So they are a wireless analytics company, but they built their solution cloud first so.

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Chris Feeney: Everything is is you know.

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Chris Feeney: hosted in the cloud and everything like there but they have basically the ability to analyze and help solve problems regarding.

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Chris Feeney: You know, all kinds of wireless issues that you might encounter and that’s really the key focuses and the nice thing about.

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Chris Feeney: You know I Joe Linux is that they do have a Linux plugin APP thing that we’ve made into a custom partition and you just literally you turn that on and then you point it at.

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Chris Feeney: This cloud environment and pull up the console and then you can start seeing and diagnosing issues it’s very powerful solution they’ve been sponsoring our disrupt on tours which just wrapped up the spring early summer sessions last week and Seattle.

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Chris Feeney: But we’re very excited to have them on board they’ve got a pretty solid solution.

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Patrick Toner: Also, we should probably put a little bookmark in the custom partition feature, we tried touch on that.

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Patrick Toner: Once we kind of overview this a little bit, because I think there’s some well, first of all we’re doing a workshop coming up on it so that’s timely.

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Patrick Toner: But you know just the great features fried talk through it a little bit, but so it sounds like seven signal is completely it sounds like the cloud based solution.

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Chris Feeney: So the yeah the.

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Patrick Toner: ideal devices would report up as cloud based solution and your admin would have like a browser based.

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Patrick Toner: You know dashboard or something where they could see data is that is that right.

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Chris Feeney: yeah and it’s pretty the way they display it is pretty amazing I mean it’s easy to read, understand, obviously with some training, can I get a sense of what you’re looking at, but.

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Chris Feeney: I remember, for example, early months of the pandemic, you know, everybody was at home and you had you know kids.

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Chris Feeney: My wife’s a teacher so she was teaching from home my daughter was still in high school and she was you know working learning from home my son was in college, he was doing everybody was at home.

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Chris Feeney: And wi fi signals were just absolutely crazy and we kept having wi fi go out or whatever, and so I actually downloaded a Linux APP on my.

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Chris Feeney: a boon to system and just to see what it could tell me as far as what signals are being used right on the wi fi spectrum.

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Chris Feeney: And I found one basically in our neighborhood everybody had the default on it was right in the middle, and you know you can see where the congestion was so I deliberately went and I moved our wi fi signal to have.

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Chris Feeney: I guess a higher area of the spectrum and where it didn’t see too many signals there and, from what I can tell it seemed to stabilize.

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Chris Feeney: But seven signal is one of those things that you know, can give you that, but in a nice visual ability to display and kind of see and diagnose what that is so.

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Chris Feeney: I wish we had a video make probably do somewhere, I need to check with my my friend RON there and helps you help with the custom partition build of this but but it’s a really cool tool, especially in areas and hospitals are poor.

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Chris Feeney: Maybe buildings that weren’t built for wireless type signals really diagnose where those issues are but that’s what it’s that’s what it’s that’s what they do and they’re they’re pretty good at it.

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Patrick Toner: that’s pretty awesome I mean when you think about you know how you and I are working right now I mean obviously i’m in a random hotel down the street from my house your it looks like you’re pretty relaxed right now but you’re you’re at what a beach Rentals that we’re at.

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Chris Feeney: yeah we are, in fact, you know for those that are watching to see if I can turn this thing around.

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Chris Feeney: Can you see out my on my porch here.

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Patrick Toner: Again yeah that’s Nice.

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Chris Feeney: So a little Mars in the background, the I think the tide is on its way out.

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Chris Feeney: But there’s wildlife and our dogs eager to go outside and explore what’s going on but yeah we’re just enjoying enjoying the time here.

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Patrick Toner: i’ve taken Chris that where you’re at Grad.

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Chris Feeney: we’re on Hilton head island, so this little spot here is I wouldn’t say if the day but it’s definitely.

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Chris Feeney: You know we’re about two miles from the ocean, where the beach club is so.

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Patrick Toner: Okay cool.

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Patrick Toner: yeah well yeah go back to our you know point here while you’re lounging firing the mark out there, you know the wildlife, you know just doing your work from home.

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Patrick Toner: it’s Nice as an admin when your users are doing that because if you called your help desk right now and said hey I can’t I can’t connect to citrix I can’t connect to vmware right, this is not working right it’s usually.

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Patrick Toner: You know that that becomes the problem in the users is hey this thing doesn’t work.

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Patrick Toner: Having that visibility is key right he was the admin he was to help desk team to say Okay, well, I know I see your device reporting in, and you have terrible signal you know you’re you’re on you’re on a 56 K connection at a beach rental right.

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Patrick Toner: You know that’s a big deal that’s a big deal for the help desk team to have that data in order to just quickly be able to just diagnose what’s going on.

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Chris Feeney: yeah absolutely I mean that’s really.

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Chris Feeney: You know, comes down to that user experience right, you know, trying to figure out where is the hiccup.

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Chris Feeney: case in point, we were on our way down last yesterday and my daughter got a phone call and it to me, it was a scam somebody said there’s Amazon.

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Chris Feeney: If you did not authorize a purchase of a MAC book pro still like that, please press one and I was driving and I was, I was that you know.

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Chris Feeney: And I was like Oh, and so we got on the phone I was sitting there driving and I was trying to walk her through the APP and I was like alright see if you can get Ahold of customer service.

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Chris Feeney: And when she did pull it up, it said sorry there’s some trouble going on right now now what was that issue was you know amazon’s data Center down, was it just a sheer volume of calls.

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Chris Feeney: You know, whatever, but they were at least able to let the user know hey something’s going on not now’s not a probably good time you try to reach us, you know.

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Chris Feeney: And really trying to figure out like all right if i’m sitting here and i’m at the beach rental and yesterday, for example, I noticed it’s you know, once the kids got on wi fi things began to slow down a bit.

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Chris Feeney: So I was, like all right it’s not the greatest wi fi and really checked out what what type of.

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Chris Feeney: You know, powerful signal, or we have here but.

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Chris Feeney: But you can tell they’re streaming videos or whatever like that you might you might have a little poor performance but but yeah without a tool really help understand what that is you mean you can be guests, and it could be.

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Chris Feeney: Other forget there’s a stove is doing it early project years ago and they were saying hey we noticed every time.

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Chris Feeney: The mowers are out that are signals just are going haywire and what it ended up being as they had that copper wires connecting these buildings, but they were very.

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Chris Feeney: Like they weren’t dug deep and so when the metal magneto I guess of the of the mower blades would go over it would cause the servants, with the electrical signal.

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Chris Feeney: And so, then they switch ultimately they switched to a wi fi connectivity or something like that, but.

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Chris Feeney: But uh but they just happen to notice, because those those cables connected to those were buried like maybe two inches deep or something it was.

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Chris Feeney: was getting impact like that I just weird stuff like that can impact your networking capability, but having a tool able to help you understand.

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Chris Feeney: Where is the problem is it definitely on the endpoint is it somewhere in the signal itself, or is it your you know sipping coffee in your hundred thousand feet away from your access point.

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Chris Feeney: Those are the that’s the kind of you know crazy examples, but that that’s what a tool like seven signal can help you understand.

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Patrick Toner: yeah that’s great I mean there’s there’s other tools to I mean you think.

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Patrick Toner: Control up where it just comes down to visibility right.

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Patrick Toner: It comes down to a little to just see what’s going on, you know the talking about a scam you know kind of the whole thing started there.

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Patrick Toner: Usually, a scam is the same issue you don’t really have full visibility of who’s talking to you it’s like.

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Patrick Toner: Like Michael Scott says, you know when the Crown Prince of Nigeria calls you directly, you don’t ask questions right.

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Patrick Toner: We should not take that approach, but you know, we need to know when there’s an issue when there’s something weird going on, you need to have data to build a backup.

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Patrick Toner: To be able to fix it right to be able to tell your user hey you have a poor network or hey your your you know your cpu utilization is just through the roof whenever you run teams, or whatever right.

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Patrick Toner: it’s just it’s just being able to diagnose it and you know and then fix the problem, or at least have have a little data to say hey look it’s just not going to work where you’re at.

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Patrick Toner: yeah but yeah I mean it’s just a huge huge ever growing need, as we get more and more remote we get more and more work from anywhere.

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Patrick Toner: Really, the stuff that I just been promoting you know, for years, you know it’s it’s pretty pretty it’s pretty amazing you mentioned earlier when.

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Patrick Toner: Like how things were I was just I was thinking as you were talking so I started in it running network cable That was my first job.

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Patrick Toner: In technology, I was i’ve run cat five cable I learned, you know punch down the the ends and then I was rolling out thin clients with broken out Dell wyse thin clients connecting to citrix.

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Patrick Toner: And it was it was, for you know 14 years ago that was pretty amazing right that was pretty cutting edge to be.

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Patrick Toner: But you would have never done it over wi fi you would have never you know ever you know relied on wi fi back in those days, because the technology was just it was just wasn’t there, then you fast forward to today.

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Patrick Toner: wireless technology is pretty amazing how how.

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Patrick Toner: is how old is.

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Patrick Toner: How, you know it’s just come a long way.

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Chris Feeney: Oh yeah my just listening to you talk there, my first really.

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Chris Feeney: Truly wireless networking project was the company, I was working for.

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Chris Feeney: Had a contract with this hospitality group that owned a bunch of like.

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Chris Feeney: Hampton ends some residents in various types of brands, and this was maybe.

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Chris Feeney: Three before these brands really became Brenda like Hampton INN went through a phase, but it became everything was the same brand.

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Chris Feeney: And Mary out went through a similar thing, but before that the hotel the hospitality owners would say hey we wireless or networking, or you know Internet access is something we need high speed Internet access so.

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Chris Feeney: We were big with Cisco, and so we went with Cisco gear and I was intimately involved with setting up some of these Cisco access points, but you know, trying to implement this and then figure out with the wireless antennas the, the best way to put these things, and you know.

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Chris Feeney: And I remember you know just trying to figure out, you know, do I have it.

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Chris Feeney: Enough coverage that we you know all these little tools in the tool that can work that great to really help you understand if you.

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Chris Feeney: Were covering you know, a section of the floor, or the entire floor or or four floors or overpowering it, so I can guarantee you at least there may still be some.

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Chris Feeney: Wireless access networks out there that some of these hotels that are up and running, because the wi fi was just way way turn way up.

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Chris Feeney: Maybe they’ve been replaced by now, but.

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Chris Feeney: yeah I would say it was not my complete best work, but it was it was early on early years and.

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Chris Feeney: You know, we we ended up getting it done but but yeah it was it was a I was like man, if this works has been amazing, but now it just.

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Chris Feeney: Where you go, I mean where you’re sitting right now now you don’t think twice about it generally works totally fine you got plenty of.

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Chris Feeney: Speed you know you know, like a hotel points person usually get like that that extra level if you’re like a gold or whatever level you get that higher speed kind of thing but i’ve noticed, even on the lower ones that it’s still enough they get what I need to get done so.

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Patrick Toner: that’s assuming we’re actually getting more you know that’s a.

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Chris Feeney: mean that’s you getting 11 you’re getting that spinal tap 11.

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Chris Feeney: turn it.

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Patrick Toner: boosted up it just makes me feel better that they tell me it’s faster that’s that’s.

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Chris Feeney: Totally all it is if.

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Chris Feeney: You pay five bucks extra.

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Patrick Toner: But but anyway so yeah it’s just it’s really come a long way, I mean that that’s the point i’m really why we need technologies like this right, we need.

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Patrick Toner: We need technologies like seven signal and other ones out there control up you know liquid where they have their their tools as well.

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Patrick Toner: really important to have that in your stack if you don’t have it definitely reach out to us because you really needed, we could give you a story after story of customers finding that out the hard way.

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Patrick Toner: But anyway, so you mentioned Chris earlier, you know seven signal today, and this is, you know pretty common when it comes to it already.

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Patrick Toner: Partnerships there we start out as a custom partition and then they eventually get integrated with customer demand so it’s seven signal to knowledge it’s still a custom partition today is that right.

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Chris Feeney: that’s correct.

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Patrick Toner: Okay, very cool and for anyone who doesn’t know a custom partition and I gel language what it really does and, by the way, shameless plug here, Chris and I will be doing a workshop on, let me get the data it’s in July.

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Chris Feeney: July 28 I believe that.

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Patrick Toner: July 28 Thursday Thursday July 28.

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Patrick Toner: You can sign up it’s INTEGRA COM go to workshops, but yeah it will be doing doing a deep dive.

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Patrick Toner: With agile custom partitions will have RON they’re joining us who some knows the godfather of custom partitions are on the agile Community he’s.

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Patrick Toner: that’s a really good work, but we’re going to talk about it and it’s really a great feature, because what custom partition does is allows you to take an application that’s any of any Linux application that’s living out there.

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Patrick Toner: are almost everything will put that little caveat in there, almost every Linux application it’s out there, and you can package, it up and deploy it to I gel and run it so.

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Patrick Toner: For example, you know there’s there’s applications out there, but people may not realize this Microsoft actually has a Linux version of Microsoft edge.

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Patrick Toner: And Microsoft teams and they can run locally on a Linux device, so I Jill does not have those built in, by default, the nigel’s have read only sandbox though so only what’s built in is what’s there you know.

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Patrick Toner: But what you can do is package them up and deploy them, you can actually run nigella less and use Microsoft edges or browser you can locally run Microsoft teams.

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Patrick Toner: Without you know entering into a vdi environment so it’s a really cool feature X we use that internally here it’s INTEGRA so.

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Patrick Toner: On this week actually was like I think literally a few days ago, and he was asking me if he could get local versions of zoom and teams, I was able to go to agile Community calm run the scripts that RON has you need to Linux be able to do it or Linux machine to do it.

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Patrick Toner: I ran a scripts It gives me the updated version of zoom updated version of teams and I deployed it out, I probably had done in about.

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Patrick Toner: I would say about 2030 minutes start to finish, so it’s really a powerful tool and a great way to just push whatever applications, you want to your Linux os GI Joe.

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Chris Feeney: yeah and and RON we he and I haven’t maintain our our own as your instance of us and ice and.

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Chris Feeney: He keeps track of when the latest edge and teams and zoom are available, we also he also keeps like he has webex, for example, because you know gotta sometimes use that and having it locally, sometimes makes makes sense.

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Chris Feeney: But but yeah you know frequently to say it was really cool as i’m i’ll take my.

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Chris Feeney: My LG laptop out of my gram and i’ll Am I ut pocket plugged in as soon as literally as soon as it hits a wi fi connection if there’s an updated custom partition.

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Chris Feeney: it picks it up immediately and you just see it go through, and it updates i’ll take you know zoom or edge, for example.

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Chris Feeney: And like literally just a few maybe a minute or so and then it’s done, and you know away we go but uh.

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Chris Feeney: But yeah having that I mean obviously edge I love it that’s great browser you can run all of office, including teams i’ve done teams, without the teams custom partition just use edge and and run teams calls and.

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Chris Feeney: it’s a great user experience with that browser but, but having zoom locally is pretty cool.

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Chris Feeney: I think, last week, maybe wasn’t we talked about Lars had done, you know if you want to have the custom virtual background as a little work brown little script you can do so there’s some really, really cool stuff you can do with these things.

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Patrick Toner: It really is amazing, I mean yeah you know because there’s there’s also a knowledge base on the caveat, I, like him, you can actually.

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Patrick Toner: it’ll show you how to actually do it from scratch right, you can package, one of these applications, but what ron’s done here is pretty awesome I mean you can.

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Patrick Toner: You can go in, if you want, for example, Google chrome is here, and then get Microsoft edge, you know I jumped by default as firefox chromium built in, but if I wanted one of these these browsers basically he has a little little script I run.

00:19:32.820 –> 00:19:34.920
Chris Feeney: yeah The key thing he’s done.

00:19:35.820 –> 00:19:41.640
Chris Feeney: yeah The key thing is on his finger on what dependencies do you need besides what might already be.

00:19:42.450 –> 00:19:57.510
Chris Feeney: On the operating system so there’s some applications that might have a dependency for something, and he figures out his script you can look at how he goes and grabs the you know the the core install files, but if there’s some other dependency that’s needed.

00:19:58.530 –> 00:20:05.010
Chris Feeney: To go out there grab it pull it down and then begin your packaging it all up so you can literally walk through that process.

00:20:05.550 –> 00:20:15.780
Chris Feeney: or just literally that that script run and do its thing and it it goes through builds it and puts it into a format that allows it to be able to get installed on I gel.

00:20:17.070 –> 00:20:22.260
Chris Feeney: bronze and it is amazing how he’s done he loves this stuff and you know i’m happy to have him on my team.

00:20:22.680 –> 00:20:30.990
Patrick Toner: Oh yeah very sharp guy you know and for anyone who’s can see the screen here all the all these Linux commands beauty of what brian’s done here is you don’t need to know any of it.

00:20:31.710 –> 00:20:36.660
Patrick Toner: You probably need to know is basic amount of Linux is possible to pack which one of these up.

00:20:37.050 –> 00:20:46.050
Patrick Toner: He said to download a file and be able to learn how to run the command and just packages up in a file in a zip file and and then you just deploy it so really cool.

00:20:46.920 –> 00:20:54.780
Patrick Toner: will also be going way deeper into that on the 28th will probably build a couple on that workshop real time, you know show how it works.

00:20:55.380 –> 00:21:00.390
Patrick Toner: So if that’s something if you’re listening to this that interests you that’s going to be a great workshop to attend.

00:21:01.140 –> 00:21:08.220
Patrick Toner: And you know I mean when you look through these I mean, these are the opposite of browsers but there’s a whole you know there’s a whole different you know.

00:21:08.730 –> 00:21:14.700
Patrick Toner: repository of different applications, so if I go to Apps I mean just just on an artist so many cool Apps that.

00:21:15.180 –> 00:21:23.760
Patrick Toner: You know it’s it’s worth it’s worth taking a poke over there, if you know if you don’t know if it’s something like spotify you know I don’t know if your admins are going to necessarily once you’re running spotify but uh.

00:21:24.450 –> 00:21:28.050
Chris Feeney: I guess someone at some point she’s the one underneath that.

00:21:28.320 –> 00:21:29.460
Patrick Toner: steam steam.

00:21:29.490 –> 00:21:30.330
Over gamers.

00:21:32.130 –> 00:21:35.880
Patrick Toner: Actually that’s a good test, maybe for the workshop we’ll see if we can play a video game.

00:21:36.300 –> 00:21:39.030
Patrick Toner: On an eye gel in real time via.

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00:21:40.890 –> 00:21:42.360
Chris Feeney: A rod rod.

00:21:42.390 –> 00:21:51.600
Chris Feeney: Definitely done that but we’re playing around so LG has this really cool project we were working on an e sports thing which is basically gaming.

00:21:52.020 –> 00:22:08.550
Chris Feeney: And we showed them that hey we could actually run steam and stream these video these a Catholic i’m not a gamer right so honestly I I I said I spent all my gaming days back in the Nintendo early years, so I you know all those brain cells have already kind of been used up so.

00:22:08.940 –> 00:22:09.960
Chris Feeney: me and the controller.

00:22:11.040 –> 00:22:11.670
Patrick Toner: back and I days.

00:22:11.730 –> 00:22:18.030
Patrick Toner: of our dads told us, you Games will never get you anywhere in life now there’s people already know millions dollars playing video games.

00:22:18.030 –> 00:22:20.430
Chris Feeney: Yes, yeah who would have thought right.

00:22:20.760 –> 00:22:29.280
Chris Feeney: Seriously, but and I just wish I could come up with something like as funny as Gary Larson as far side that would have made you know but anyway.

00:22:30.660 –> 00:22:31.200
Chris Feeney: But yeah.

00:22:32.250 –> 00:22:41.700
Chris Feeney: But, but they they have these tournaments and and you know part of that was showing all that yeah you can run these games literally from from an audio.

00:22:42.180 –> 00:22:51.780
Chris Feeney: But the Nice end point obviously you have a good point but yeah there’s all kinds of stuff here, and you know who knows it may set the stage for the upcoming ios 12 APP store.

00:22:54.060 –> 00:22:56.550
Chris Feeney: Just apple some money on that one sorry APP.

00:22:56.670 –> 00:22:57.420
Chris Feeney: APP portal.

00:22:59.640 –> 00:23:00.780
Chris Feeney: can’t call it an APP store.

00:23:01.140 –> 00:23:03.270
Patrick Toner: And the apple employees are listening right now you’re definitely.

00:23:03.480 –> 00:23:04.290
Patrick Toner: Right now.

00:23:04.320 –> 00:23:07.080
Chris Feeney: We did not, not what it’s going to be called the portal.

00:23:07.440 –> 00:23:13.260
Patrick Toner: So, Chris are you at liberty to speak of how the approach will change most 12 or is that too early, I don’t know I don’t know.

00:23:14.400 –> 00:23:23.820
Chris Feeney: Well yeah I mean no I think at this point it’s basically going to be very similar to your phone you get a base operating system for your phone maybe some built in Apps.

00:23:24.900 –> 00:23:35.250
Chris Feeney: So, for us it might you know, obviously a terminal ssh thing or whatever like that just basic function that, but if you tend to like other Apps that are normally built in today and include that would be the.

00:23:35.940 –> 00:23:46.530
Chris Feeney: Secure workspace horizon lent lent Linux APP things like that a browser all of that will be available through this thing in ios 12 called the APP portal.

00:23:47.040 –> 00:24:02.310
Chris Feeney: And you will just grab and pull down what you want, in there, therefore, going forward the operating system can get updated separately and the Apps can be updated separately it’s not all at once, for example, like it is today with Ellis 11th so.

00:24:03.360 –> 00:24:12.090
Chris Feeney: And it’s a lighter you know less full operating system in the sense that it’s not like maybe it won’t be, as you know, today, maybe I think.

00:24:13.200 –> 00:24:15.420
Chris Feeney: With all the clients that are often included.

00:24:16.980 –> 00:24:24.360
Chris Feeney: For example, we have citrix three versions of that we’ve got the horizon we’ve got Amazon we’ve got a PCP client we’ve got.

00:24:25.770 –> 00:24:26.430
Chris Feeney: One of the messenger.

00:24:27.450 –> 00:24:35.700
Chris Feeney: browsers I mean it all that begins to add up, and in our release notes, you can actually see how big are those applications taking up.

00:24:37.260 –> 00:24:44.130
Chris Feeney: And so, going forward it’ll be an operating system with the APP stripped out and then you add in the Apps that you want.

00:24:44.760 –> 00:24:56.130
Chris Feeney: like to add client or or something like that so that’s the approach it’ll be kind of like the custom partition is today you’ll have to be a way for those Apps to be.

00:24:56.790 –> 00:25:12.810
Chris Feeney: built in such a way that they can be installed and only read only ios but the custom partition feature is, I would say sort of going to be the grandfather or the mothership or whatever idea, you know what I mean whatever pick your.

00:25:13.020 –> 00:25:19.590
Chris Feeney: pick your SS yeah exactly predecessor, there you go that’s a good word the scrabble word man good job.

00:25:19.620 –> 00:25:25.800
Patrick Toner: You know, thank you appreciate that but uh yeah you know so so basically today right I.

00:25:26.310 –> 00:25:31.170
Patrick Toner: don’t owe us 11 everything is just packaged in there, and you know I back when we started agile Christmas.

00:25:31.530 –> 00:25:36.570
Patrick Toner: You know the one that we would always tell people it’s less than two gigs you know, and it was maybe like 1.7 or 1.8.

00:25:36.900 –> 00:25:49.470
Patrick Toner: And then it’s just over time crept up right these applications are bigger that you know you’re looking at something like zoom vdi you need more versions included, so the US has gotten more bigger it’s a lot bigger less it’s still a lot about two and a half gigs roughly.

00:25:50.940 –> 00:25:59.550
Patrick Toner: Which is still very small compared to other operating systems out there, but oh is 12 do you know the size of like if you just started with 12 zero Apps installed, you know what the sizes.

00:26:00.930 –> 00:26:06.450
Chris Feeney: um you know it’s a good question I actually built on ios creator stick for.

00:26:08.550 –> 00:26:13.170
Chris Feeney: I want to say it’s under two gigs but I need to go back and check on that because it was definitely.

00:26:14.280 –> 00:26:18.240
Chris Feeney: It was definitely much faster when and install but it’s been about a month and a half since i’ve touched it.

00:26:19.470 –> 00:26:20.490
Chris Feeney: I kind of installed it on the.

00:26:22.530 –> 00:26:29.250
Chris Feeney: One I put it on the big IP I think I emerged the pocket or something like that, but it didn’t take up much, much, much space on it so.

00:26:30.510 –> 00:26:32.100
Patrick Toner: it’s gotta be a really light.

00:26:32.460 –> 00:26:35.790
Patrick Toner: You know image with everything out of it so it’s gonna be something big I mean.

00:26:35.790 –> 00:26:36.180
Chris Feeney: yeah.

00:26:36.300 –> 00:26:44.850
Chris Feeney: You can tell me, I went into like the local setup after I installed, with no Apps on a look and see what was there was definitely stripped down that’s for sure so.

00:26:46.770 –> 00:26:51.090
Chris Feeney: But but yeah you’re just you know once it registers it’s just a matter of.

00:26:52.290 –> 00:26:58.650
Chris Feeney: Just like you do it normally us you, you get it into a place of either a staging area or.

00:26:59.550 –> 00:27:14.700
Chris Feeney: Where it’s going to permanently resided and you just just like profiles you put the Apps in there and it begins, adding those things on and in a similar fashion, when we do our custom partition workshop you’ll see you know you just kind of added these custom partition.

00:27:17.880 –> 00:27:31.140
Chris Feeney: Apps essentially to the directory that you’re going to install it on and those things begin to install and next thing you know there’s icons on the on the desktop or in the start menu, whatever it looks like it’s natively installed so it’s pretty cool.

00:27:32.640 –> 00:27:42.300
Patrick Toner: very, very cool well you know I think you know, we should probably maybe just recap wrap up here, Chris you know just kind of the original thing seven signal check it out.

00:27:43.200 –> 00:27:54.390
Patrick Toner: If you’re going to be obsolete they’re sponsoring lana I just disrupt on tour, so we probably plug that where you guys are kind of threw them almost it’s really not that many left so it looks like there’s five left North America.

00:27:55.380 –> 00:27:55.740
Chris Feeney: Try.

00:27:56.340 –> 00:27:57.630
Patrick Toner: Which is pretty wild you got.

00:27:57.810 –> 00:28:05.040
Patrick Toner: It September, you have New York City Canada Toronto Canada Vancouver those will be Michael berman’s stomping grounds and then.

00:28:06.030 –> 00:28:13.650
Patrick Toner: October six and Houston October 20 and nashville and I guess that’s a wrap so if you’re listening you’re near that one of those cities.

00:28:13.950 –> 00:28:22.230
Patrick Toner: Those are that’s your opportunity to get out and maybe see some of these technologies as integral have a big presence install them and have you know throughout all of the different disrupts.

00:28:24.150 –> 00:28:29.130
Patrick Toner: check it out and check that out, but uh yeah and also again just to recap.

00:28:29.970 –> 00:28:41.820
Patrick Toner: You know, if you want to learn more about custom partition July 28 Chris and I with RON will be will be going deep and we’ll walk through it and it’ll be an awesome opportunity to learn about custom partitions ask questions.

00:28:42.720 –> 00:28:48.150
Patrick Toner: You know, ask someone like RON about how he’s doing it now just going to be a great opportunity to learn.

00:28:49.500 –> 00:28:54.180
Patrick Toner: them so looking forward to those Chris any other thoughts before we wrap this thing up.

00:28:55.380 –> 00:29:01.920
Chris Feeney: No, I hope, you’re moving goes well coming up just a few days away from now right so.

00:29:02.100 –> 00:29:06.000
Patrick Toner: Two days and trust me i’m it’s not like i’m counting down the minutes or anything but.

00:29:08.880 –> 00:29:11.850
Patrick Toner: LIFE has been in flux for six weeks so we’re we’re looking for.

00:29:13.170 –> 00:29:27.810
Chris Feeney: awesome now well i’m looking forward to the workshop here in a few weeks so other than that everybody have a great holiday July 4 holiday and and happy independence safe for those who live in America.

00:29:28.650 –> 00:29:32.400
Patrick Toner: There you go to our Canadian listeners just have a nice weekend.

00:29:32.880 –> 00:29:33.570
So yeah.

00:29:35.490 –> 00:29:40.050
Patrick Toner: Thank you, everybody and we’ll talk to you on the next one, have a great July 4 take care.

00:29:40.740 –> 00:29:41.520
Chris Feeney: All right, take care.