{"id":718397,"date":"2025-07-01T10:53:41","date_gmt":"2025-07-01T14:53:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/xentegra.com\/resources\/104-nutanix-weekly-nutanix-and-canonical-partner-to-simplify-kubernetes-deployments-with-nkp-and-ubuntu-pro\/"},"modified":"2025-09-14T19:37:53","modified_gmt":"2025-09-14T23:37:53","slug":"104-nutanix-weekly-nutanix-and-canonical-partner-to-simplify-kubernetes-deployments-with-nkp-and-ubuntu-pro","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/xentegra.com\/hi\/resources\/104-nutanix-weekly-nutanix-and-canonical-partner-to-simplify-kubernetes-deployments-with-nkp-and-ubuntu-pro\/","title":{"rendered":"104: Nutanix Weekly: Nutanix and Canonical Partner to Simplify Kubernetes Deployments with NKP and Ubuntu Pro"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"width: 100%; height: 200px;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/1577275\/episodes\/17385996-nutanix-weekly-nutanix-and-canonical-partner-to-simplify-kubernetes-deployments-with-nkp-and-ubuntu-pro?iframe=true\" width=\"100%\" height=\"200\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Nutanix is excited to announce our new partnership with Canonical Ltd., the publisher of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nutanix.com\/partners\/technology-alliances\/ubuntu\">Ubuntu<\/a> and provider of open source security, support and services. Through this partnership, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nutanix.com\/products\/kubernetes-management-platform\">Nutanix Kubernetes Platform<\/a> (NKP) customers will have the option to choose a well-supported and secure Linux operating system for NKP to help simplify Kubernetes\u00ae installation and adoption\u2014reitenforcing the engineering commitment at Nutanix to the Linux, Cloud-Native and Open-Source communities.<\/p>\n<p>\u092c\u094d\u0932\u0949\u0917 \u092d\u0947\u091c\u093e: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nutanix.com\/blog\/nutanix-and-canonical-partner-to-simplify-kubernetes-deployments-with-nkp-and-ubuntu-pro\">https:\/\/www.nutanix.com\/blog\/nutanix-and-canonical-partner-to-simplify-kubernetes-deployments-with-nkp-and-ubuntu-pro<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u0939\u094b\u0938\u094d\u091f: \u092b\u093f\u0932 \u0938\u0947\u0932\u0930\u094d\u0938, \u091c\u093c\u0947\u0928\u091f\u0947\u0917\u094d\u0930\u093e<br \/>\n\u0938\u0939-\u0939\u094b\u0938\u094d\u091f: \u091c\u093f\u0930\u093e\u0939 \u0915\u0949\u0915\u094d\u0938, \u0928\u0941\u091f\u0948\u0928\u093f\u0915\u094d\u0938<\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript\">\n<p><!--block-->\u0935\u0947\u092c\u0935\u0940\u091f\u0940\u091f\u0940<\/p>\n<p>1<br \/>\n00:00:04.000 &#8211;&gt; 00:00:19.699<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: Welcome to another episode of Nutanix Weekly. I&#8217;m your host, Phil Sellers. I&#8217;m also the practice director for Modern Data Center here at Zintegra and want to say thanks for spending some time with us. This is another one of those<\/p>\n<p>2<br \/>\n00:00:20.280 &#8211;&gt; 00:00:24.729<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: content with context sort of situations. We like to<\/p>\n<p>3<br \/>\n00:00:24.910 &#8211;&gt; 00:00:52.130<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: to take the content we find online from our partners and add our real world context, our experiences and anything we&#8217;re hearing from our clients collectively and add that to learn together. So I want to say, Welcome and introduce my co-host for today. Jayra Cox, architect at Nutanix and all around. Good Guy.<\/p>\n<p>4<br \/>\n00:00:52.400 &#8211;&gt; 00:00:59.219<br \/>\nJirah Cox: Phil, who&#8217;s your peer? At integra? That would be the practice director for archaic Data center.<\/p>\n<p>5<br \/>\n00:00:59.400 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:01.130<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: Archaic data center.<\/p>\n<p>6<br \/>\n00:01:01.130 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:05.909<br \/>\nJirah Cox: Your modern data center right? Then, that implies somebody else is doing the Stone Age stuff.<\/p>\n<p>7<br \/>\n00:01:05.940 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:14.669<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: Well, I was. Gonna say, I think it&#8217;s that statue of Matthew we&#8217;ve got in the office, or something, you know, just posed over there made out of marble.<\/p>\n<p>8<br \/>\n00:01:16.220 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:19.140<br \/>\nJirah Cox: The classic Renadon&#8217;s data center. I think.<\/p>\n<p>9<br \/>\n00:01:19.390 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:20.160<br \/>\n\u092b\u093f\u0932\u093f\u092a \u0938\u0947\u0932\u0930\u094d\u0938: \u0939\u093e\u0901\u0964<\/p>\n<p>10<br \/>\n00:01:20.560 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:33.857<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: yeah. Classical data center that that&#8217;s got a ring to it. Right? You know, it just seems like something you would do with a gray beard. And what do you call the little spectacle like Mr. Beanut?<\/p>\n<p>11<br \/>\n00:01:34.190 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:34.850<br \/>\nJirah Cox: Monocle.<\/p>\n<p>12<br \/>\n00:01:34.850 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:36.629<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: A monocle. Yes, that just.<\/p>\n<p>13<br \/>\n00:01:36.630 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:37.209<br \/>\nJirah Cox: I mean, if you.<\/p>\n<p>14<br \/>\n00:01:37.210 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:37.930<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: Yes, I mean.<\/p>\n<p>15<br \/>\n00:01:38.320 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:41.332<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: I mean, between you, me and the recording. If you launch that position, please let me know.<\/p>\n<p>16<br \/>\n00:01:43.460 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:56.780<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: Director of Classical Data center. Well, this is great. I mean, we we do talk about modern data center, modern sort of things. An awful lot. And and that&#8217;s on purpose. We.<\/p>\n<p>17<br \/>\n00:01:56.850 &#8211;&gt; 00:02:16.100<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: we think that the data center has changed. And there are a lot of ways you can choose to get the job done. But we advocate for a simplistic way with lots of choice and a lot of power. So that brings our friends, like Gyra from nutanix onto the podcast to talk about<\/p>\n<p>18<br \/>\n00:02:16.200 &#8211;&gt; 00:02:18.020<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: all things going on.<\/p>\n<p>19<br \/>\n00:02:19.720 &#8211;&gt; 00:02:24.940<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: But this will be a kind of interesting conversation, because this isn&#8217;t<\/p>\n<p>20<br \/>\n00:02:25.290 &#8211;&gt; 00:02:29.059<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: necessarily the traditional world of Nutanix is a gyra.<\/p>\n<p>21<br \/>\n00:02:30.446 &#8211;&gt; 00:02:40.840<br \/>\nJirah Cox: I guess not. I mean to be to be coy and and have the audience not read into what we&#8217;re talking about. Yes, it&#8217;s it is, it&#8217;s newer to anything, for sure.<\/p>\n<p>22<br \/>\n00:02:41.030 &#8211;&gt; 00:02:44.320<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: Yeah, but it&#8217;s a good thing. I mean, it still follows<\/p>\n<p>23<br \/>\n00:02:44.690 &#8211;&gt; 00:03:13.480<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: the core tenets of choice simplicity and performance. That sort of underlie everything Nutanix does. I don&#8217;t know that that&#8217;s an official 3 word tag, but I think it describes what Nutanix does really? Well, so we&#8217;ll pull back the suspense here and and read you into what we&#8217;re talking about. We&#8217;re reviewing a blog post from May 7th on nutanix.com slash blogs.<\/p>\n<p>24<br \/>\n00:03:13.650 &#8211;&gt; 00:03:26.130<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: Title of today&#8217;s Post is nutanix and canonical partner to simplify Kubernetes deployments with Nkp and ubuntu. Pro wow.<\/p>\n<p>25<br \/>\n00:03:26.290 &#8211;&gt; 00:03:27.989<br \/>\nJirah Cox: It&#8217;s awesome. Yeah, it&#8217;s very exciting.<\/p>\n<p>26<br \/>\n00:03:27.990 &#8211;&gt; 00:03:32.229<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: With a Linux provider, so.<\/p>\n<p>27<br \/>\n00:03:32.230 &#8211;&gt; 00:03:41.330<br \/>\nJirah Cox: And I mean, I&#8217;ll even say not. I&#8217;m not. Gonna assume. This is part of the business negotiations, but my personal favorite distro of choice for the last 15 years.<\/p>\n<p>28<br \/>\n00:03:41.330 &#8211;&gt; 00:03:52.400<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: That that it&#8217;s near and dear to my heart. You know, I learned on on Red hat varieties many, many moons ago. But yeah, let&#8217;s let&#8217;s be honest like.<\/p>\n<p>29<br \/>\n00:03:53.450 &#8211;&gt; 00:03:57.329<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: go a little nerdy here may lose a few listeners, bear with us, but.<\/p>\n<p>30<br \/>\n00:03:57.330 &#8211;&gt; 00:03:58.579<br \/>\nJirah Cox: On this podcast.<\/p>\n<p>31<br \/>\n00:03:58.580 &#8211;&gt; 00:03:59.982<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: I don&#8217;t know.<\/p>\n<p>32<br \/>\n00:04:00.760 &#8211;&gt; 00:04:06.419<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: rpm was an amazing thing. Package management and things like that with red hat was was<\/p>\n<p>33<br \/>\n00:04:07.050 &#8211;&gt; 00:04:12.500<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: incredible to me as a young person trying to learn Linux<\/p>\n<p>34<br \/>\n00:04:12.630 &#8211;&gt; 00:04:15.850<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: and Ubuntu got all those things right, you know.<\/p>\n<p>35<br \/>\n00:04:16.360 &#8211;&gt; 00:04:24.888<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: And you know the package management is is fantastic. And so yeah, it&#8217;s my preferred distribution, too.<\/p>\n<p>36<br \/>\n00:04:25.650 &#8211;&gt; 00:04:32.109<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: I think they&#8217;re just also a really good community partner in general. And so I I like them for that.<\/p>\n<p>37<br \/>\n00:04:32.450 &#8211;&gt; 00:04:43.449<br \/>\nJirah Cox: They? They definitely were, I think, in my experience, where? Yeah, early on in the community building. Well, okay. Sorry for the nerdy, pop, quiz. Phil, do you know, what do you know what ubuntu means?<\/p>\n<p>38<br \/>\n00:04:44.386 &#8211;&gt; 00:04:52.100<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: I don&#8217;t specifically know what it means. I do know that it is a a term from Africa.<\/p>\n<p>39<br \/>\n00:04:52.100 &#8211;&gt; 00:04:52.840<br \/>\nJirah Cox: True.<\/p>\n<p>40<br \/>\n00:04:53.330 &#8211;&gt; 00:04:56.940<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: Not mistaken. Remember what it means.<\/p>\n<p>41<br \/>\n00:04:56.940 &#8211;&gt; 00:05:00.660<br \/>\nJirah Cox: It means. I am what I am, because of what we all are.<\/p>\n<p>42<br \/>\n00:05:00.810 &#8211;&gt; 00:05:01.720<br \/>\n\u092b\u093f\u0932\u093f\u092a \u0938\u0947\u0932\u0930\u094d\u0938: \u0939\u093e\u0901\u0964<\/p>\n<p>43<br \/>\n00:05:01.720 &#8211;&gt; 00:05:27.640<br \/>\nJirah Cox: And it so the community aspect of it is, even in the naming of the distro. I used to actually send off for the free the free Dvds right? Every single new, you know, rodent named release rodent, or I guess animal animal kingdom named release and for a while I, I, you know, had them on my bookshelf. And then I realized that was really quite silly. But but yeah, they were great. So the community is right there.<\/p>\n<p>44<br \/>\n00:05:27.996 &#8211;&gt; 00:05:35.480<br \/>\nJirah Cox: baked into even the naming of of of ubuntu, and not to get terribly inflammatory here. But yeah, it&#8217;s like<\/p>\n<p>45<br \/>\n00:05:35.520 &#8211;&gt; 00:05:54.800<br \/>\nJirah Cox: usable, friendly, Debian. Sorry. Sorry, Debian. Diehards. But what do you mean? Debian is not friendly and usable. You know. Check out our forums. Okay, we&#8217;ll stop that. But but yeah, and you know the the other funny<\/p>\n<p>46<br \/>\n00:05:54.800 &#8211;&gt; 00:06:13.320<br \/>\nJirah Cox: high in here for the this. This theming of okay, of course, the the headline announcement is, you can now use use ubuntu and really ubuntu pro right. The actual commercially supported variant, not the community supported variant as the underlying substrate OS for running the Nkp container platform.<\/p>\n<p>47<br \/>\n00:06:13.470 &#8211;&gt; 00:06:18.113<br \/>\nJirah Cox: which is great and fantastic for all of our joint customers.<\/p>\n<p>48<br \/>\n00:06:18.990 &#8211;&gt; 00:06:33.470<br \/>\nJirah Cox: I scroll past a meme earlier today in in other nerd circles. Right? That was like, Oh, it&#8217;s serverless. But then you look on the covers and it runs on servers right? And so the the tie in here would be okay. It&#8217;s containers, so I don&#8217;t care about the OS.<\/p>\n<p>49<br \/>\n00:06:33.950 &#8211;&gt; 00:06:38.370<br \/>\nJirah Cox: And underneath that is, the OS. Is an OS.<\/p>\n<p>50<br \/>\n00:06:39.100 &#8211;&gt; 00:06:48.379<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: Yeah. And and here here I&#8217;m gonna ask the stupid question, why would you want to run Nkp in an ubuntu vm on Nutanix?<\/p>\n<p>51<br \/>\n00:06:49.680 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:02.899<br \/>\nJirah Cox: But or anywhere, right in a Vm or or anywhere. Yeah, for sure. So and I guess here&#8217;s my simplistic answer back is because so the containers have to run on Kubernetes. Kubernetes has to run on an OS. Somewhere.<\/p>\n<p>52<br \/>\n00:07:03.150 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:08.360<br \/>\nJirah Cox: You could run that on like a free, open source. Community supported Linux distro<\/p>\n<p>53<br \/>\n00:07:08.830 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:25.459<br \/>\nJirah Cox: that option does not go away. Just because there&#8217;s now this also strong partnership with canonical for vin 2 pro but folks like security teams. Right? Folks like it. Leadership. Love to be able to say there&#8217;s support at every level of the stack<\/p>\n<p>54<br \/>\n00:07:26.006 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:52.269<br \/>\nJirah Cox: or we get better than say, free, open source software. Sla&#8217;s around things like Cv patching right? Vulnerability management. You know, rapid mitigation. And so that&#8217;s that&#8217;s to to skip a little bit ahead to some of the the F&#8217;s. And B&#8217;s, as they say. You know of what this brings to the to the stack. That&#8217;s something that you can do pro has in spades over over something that&#8217;s, you know, would be a community based distro.<\/p>\n<p>55<br \/>\n00:07:53.080 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:12.590<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: Yeah. And and 2. I I think you hit the nail on the head. 1st of all is that long term commercial support that&#8217;s necessary for the enterprise, and for really any business, right security has to be at the forefront. So getting those vulnerabilities patched, not having, you know, as aggressive<\/p>\n<p>56<br \/>\n00:08:12.710 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:28.080<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: of an upgrade cycle as open source sometimes forces upon people. These are problems that ubuntu pro solves their long term releases not unlike the model that Nutanix has had with their long term leases<\/p>\n<p>57<br \/>\n00:08:28.581 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:43.860<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: releases have have always helped with that from a support, ability standpoint. But you mentioned naming to, I think briefly, there, I love the naming. 25, 0, 4. Right now is plucky puffin. I mean.<\/p>\n<p>58<br \/>\n00:08:43.860 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:45.340<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: come on like.<\/p>\n<p>59<br \/>\n00:08:45.980 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:53.440<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: if you&#8217;re listening to this, podcast. Do you not need a plucky puffin in your night life, I mean like, come on like.<\/p>\n<p>60<br \/>\n00:08:53.440 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:56.969<br \/>\nJirah Cox: My life is, my life is plucky, puff, and deficient for sure.<\/p>\n<p>61<br \/>\n00:08:58.350 &#8211;&gt; 00:09:00.818<br \/>\nJirah Cox: which is also a tongue twister.<\/p>\n<p>62<br \/>\n00:09:01.230 &#8211;&gt; 00:09:02.978<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: It is, they all have been<\/p>\n<p>63<br \/>\n00:09:03.460 &#8211;&gt; 00:09:04.386<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: But yeah,<\/p>\n<p>64<br \/>\n00:09:04.990 &#8211;&gt; 00:09:15.209<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: you know this. This is a real thing for the enterprise, you know, and obtaining support and and keeping things up to date. That&#8217;s that&#8217;s a huge thing. But<\/p>\n<p>65<br \/>\n00:09:15.630 &#8211;&gt; 00:09:21.029<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: this is also an embrace of a nciless<\/p>\n<p>66<br \/>\n00:09:21.300 &#8211;&gt; 00:09:27.759<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: way to leverage in Kp, because this Linux can run on bare metal.<\/p>\n<p>67<br \/>\n00:09:28.300 &#8211;&gt; 00:09:28.690<br \/>\nJirah Cox: Yeah, sure.<\/p>\n<p>68<br \/>\n00:09:28.690 &#8211;&gt; 00:09:30.110<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: Support. Nkp.<\/p>\n<p>69<br \/>\n00:09:30.410 &#8211;&gt; 00:09:52.239<br \/>\nJirah Cox: Very true. In fact, I mean with all respect to our friends that have moved to not even a new capability introduced here right like Nkp, since since it&#8217;s since well, since before it joins the new 10 X family, right? Has been able to be part of your fleet management running containers anywhere, including on bare metal, for sure. Now, of course, the same. I would submit. The same value. Prop exists for<\/p>\n<p>70<br \/>\n00:09:52.240 &#8211;&gt; 00:10:05.018<br \/>\nJirah Cox: using like an ubuntu pro on bare metal as it does exist, for in a Vm. It&#8217;s, you know, security doesn&#8217;t really care what the substrate is. It&#8217;s an OS that needs some kind of a patch or mitigation. So you know, chop, chop, get to it,<\/p>\n<p>71<br \/>\n00:10:05.670 &#8211;&gt; 00:10:09.831<br \/>\nJirah Cox: And I like the way that you felt called out like<\/p>\n<p>72<br \/>\n00:10:10.540 &#8211;&gt; 00:10:18.224<br \/>\nJirah Cox: aligning more closely with enterprise patching right? Because so one of the earliest things that the article calls out here that<\/p>\n<p>73<br \/>\n00:10:19.428 &#8211;&gt; 00:10:43.729<br \/>\nJirah Cox: one of the promises right of this platform from canonical is 10 plus years of security maintenance. So it actually kind of separates out what in most like consumer OS&#8217;s are are to get are together intertwined mitigation of Cbes and security vulnerabilities and patching. And now with this you get those are intentionally broken out. I can mitigate findings from my security scanners.<\/p>\n<p>74<br \/>\n00:10:44.044 &#8211;&gt; 00:10:58.489<br \/>\nJirah Cox: Very rapidly, but not actually, Rev. The version of the software that runs my stuff which might need a new requalification or go back to the lab, or whatever. Go back through engineering. I can securely patch, but not have to not have to upgrade.<\/p>\n<p>75<br \/>\n00:10:58.960 &#8211;&gt; 00:11:18.929<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: Well and and canonical, has a feature called live patch, also helping where doesn&#8217;t actually require a reboot. So you&#8217;re able to do kernel vulnerability patching so very low level in the operating system while keeping the system online. And so that&#8217;s a huge differentiator for<\/p>\n<p>76<br \/>\n00:11:19.429 &#8211;&gt; 00:11:38.399<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: running Nkp on a ubuntu pro system. So you know that, and a host of other security features, you know, as with any pro or enterprise release, they&#8217;re really talking about security here under the open source.<\/p>\n<p>77<br \/>\n00:11:39.070 &#8211;&gt; 00:11:41.540<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: Canonical umbrella.<\/p>\n<p>78<br \/>\n00:11:42.010 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:05.990<br \/>\nJirah Cox: Yeah, and that matters so much to to practitioners, right? Because containers can&#8217;t live migrate right? So to to drain to drain the host of the containers deposits running right. They have to get restarted somewhere else, which could be a failure in one of them, or if it was like a monolithic app in my container ecosystem. Would be minimally disruptive to my user base. If I can patch the host<\/p>\n<p>79<br \/>\n00:12:05.990 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:14.250<br \/>\nJirah Cox: with the pod staying right where they are. That&#8217;s of course, way way better. I can now Patch, honestly kind of like the rest of the Nci stack non-destructively<\/p>\n<p>80<br \/>\n00:12:14.320 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:16.168<br \/>\nJirah Cox: during the business day.<\/p>\n<p>81<br \/>\n00:12:17.217 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:26.609<br \/>\nJirah Cox: at the at the time of my choosing, and get those nights and weekends back, and not need to be on my laptop on a Friday night on the VPN. To to to push out a patch.<\/p>\n<p>82<br \/>\n00:12:26.950 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:42.449<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: Yeah. And I think that&#8217;s that&#8217;s the other part of this, too, is beyond the patching. You&#8217;ve got choice again in ways to deploy cost mitigation things like that, you know. If you&#8217;re running nkp on bare metal<\/p>\n<p>83<br \/>\n00:12:42.720 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:59.009<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: ubuntu pro, you&#8217;re not gonna have some of the same features. You get on Nci, that are storage specific and and things like that. But you know, for certain workloads that may be okay. If you&#8217;ve got ephemeral workloads that don&#8217;t necessarily need data.<\/p>\n<p>84<br \/>\n00:12:59.010 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:15.090<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: But then you&#8217;ve got databases. This gives you a way to to unify Nkp across all of your different operating environments while also benefiting from the unique value that you get from an nci deployed Nkp stack. So<\/p>\n<p>85<br \/>\n00:13:15.120 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:25.890<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: again, getting a high level of choice in the way that you do things while being able to benefit from common standard operational practices.<\/p>\n<p>86<br \/>\n00:13:27.210 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:28.809<br \/>\nJirah Cox: Totally. I mean, if I picture, like.<\/p>\n<p>87<br \/>\n00:13:28.870 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:57.490<br \/>\nJirah Cox: you know, containers running underneath like a cash register that probably doesn&#8217;t really need an nci stack right. But but there&#8217;s still going to be a container host, right? And that&#8217;s going to need some kind of patching. So now I can. You know my my security team or my container team can now patch whether it is in the data center in the cloud under the cash register, all with one mechanism right? And and one level of service to the business of now our OS patching doesn&#8217;t need to take anything down or ever be noticed.<\/p>\n<p>88<br \/>\n00:13:57.800 &#8211;&gt; 00:14:02.009<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: But and I love that you went there with your example of cash registers, because<\/p>\n<p>89<br \/>\n00:14:02.930 &#8211;&gt; 00:14:20.610<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: I hate to use fast food. But it&#8217;s an approachable thing we all interact with. And every one of the restaurants now has an app, which means they&#8217;re running some level of infrastructure in every one of those stores, and everyone who&#8217;s doing some level of door dashing and stuff like that.<\/p>\n<p>90<br \/>\n00:14:21.010 &#8211;&gt; 00:14:46.629<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: All of our restaurants, especially Post Covid. 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You know, we we have a large retail customer.<\/p>\n<p>114<br \/>\n00:18:20.170 &#8211;&gt; 00:18:28.539<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: The systems in their warehouses cannot go down, that is death to them, and it is an exponentially expensive<\/p>\n<p>115<br \/>\n00:18:28.840 &#8211;&gt; 00:18:43.609<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: per minute cost, and so that uptime becomes paramount. For the infrastructure that&#8217;s behind the scenes. But you know, to bring that closer and full circle. Now we&#8217;re talking about some of that same stuff running in a<\/p>\n<p>116<br \/>\n00:18:43.900 &#8211;&gt; 00:18:46.350<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: a chicken shack down the road.<\/p>\n<p>117<br \/>\n00:18:47.390 &#8211;&gt; 00:18:50.004<br \/>\nJirah Cox: Yeah, well, or or even<\/p>\n<p>118<br \/>\n00:18:50.921 &#8211;&gt; 00:19:19.029<br \/>\nJirah Cox: you know, most of these retail environments also, you know, maintain like a store lab, right? Or a test, a test store nearby. Hq. For rapid prototyping, right and development. And so how do I ensure that the way I deploy to a a science project lab also is the way I roll out at scale in prod across the actual retail edge. So that kind of standardization leads to simplicity leads to uptime as well.<\/p>\n<p>119<br \/>\n00:19:19.370 &#8211;&gt; 00:19:25.359<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: Well, and and that drives the need for consistent, reliable.<\/p>\n<p>120<br \/>\n00:19:26.180 &#8211;&gt; 00:19:34.130<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: flexible infrastructure as a basis. Then you can iterate, and then you can try all this crazy stuff on top of it, because<\/p>\n<p>121<br \/>\n00:19:34.890 &#8211;&gt; 00:19:38.680<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: the difficult complex stuff has been made simpler.<\/p>\n<p>122<br \/>\n00:19:39.130 &#8211;&gt; 00:19:41.839<br \/>\nPhilip Sellers: The actual okay, fun stuff.<\/p>\n<p>123<br \/>\n00:19:42.070 &#8211;&gt; 00:19:51.019<br \/>\nJirah Cox: With with all the respect in the world for my my container colleagues. Now who are genuinely smart people, I often<\/p>\n<p>124<br \/>\n00:19:51.330 &#8211;&gt; 00:19:58.629<br \/>\nJirah Cox: oversimplify containerization. To this is the fashionable way to install an application right now, is it?<\/p>\n<p>125<br \/>\n00:19:59.190 &#8211;&gt; 00:20:20.489<br \/>\nJirah Cox: It actually does have a bit more complexity and scaffolding underneath of it. Sure! But the complexity is worth it when I want to install it 100 times a day. 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